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#1 StingerMeGood OFFLINE  

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:30 PM

Hello,

 

Hoping someone could assist.

Since upgrading Server to Version 4.0.0.2, I have had issues with my WMC Client Version 3.0.307.0

 

I am no longer able to view my media with Legacy folder view enabled.

I still use Legacy folder view, as most of my media is sorted into manual collections, and this wont be changing.

Please refer screenshots below, for what is happening:

 

Below is the view with Legacy disabled. All of my manual movie collections are not working. But everything else is in order.

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But....this is the movie view I get with Legacy View enabled (3 "empty" folders, which are reference to the 3x network locations I have my movies stored)

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When I go into one, this is the view I get. All CoverArt is missing, but everything else "seems" in order. I'll show what happens when i enter a movie, below.

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Below, this is my Kids Movies library. Notice there is no CoverArt (as above) where there certainly should be. 

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When I select a movie, which would normally go to the details page, this is what I get.

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I then have to select it AGAIN to get to the details page.

 

I don't want to change my view to not use Legacy View, as I place theme music in the manual collection folder, and it plays (used to).

Also, I have been sorting my media out this way since the early days of MediaBrowser, and it would be too much for me to change it all over.

 

Also, TV Shows seem to be working without any issues.

 

I hope this can be resolved, otherwise I will need to roll back to a previous version of the server that works.

 

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:45 PM

Hi.  Try updating to the beta release of EMC.

 

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:52 PM

Hi ebr,

 

Appreciate the quick response.

I updated to the Beta, and also did a library refresh, but the same issue remains.



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:55 PM

I apologize but I'm afraid that legacy method may simply have become too "legacy". 



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 08:58 PM

Time to roll back then....



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:15 PM

What Theme are you using? 



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:19 PM

Hi jachin99,

 

Centrality EHS / Ascendency coverflow



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:38 PM

I was u der the impression you could maintain folder structures like this by creating mixed content libraries, naming them appropriately and pointing each new library to a given folder.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 10:44 PM

I was u der the impression you could maintain folder structures like this by creating mixed content libraries, naming them appropriately and pointing each new library to a given folder.

 

Mostly, yes, but mixed content is not a perfect representation of folder contents.



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Posted 17 January 2019 - 09:58 AM

Do you know what the differences are? How does the current implementation fall short

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 12:57 PM

Mixed content has the old practice of a single movie in a folder "owning the whole folder". This avoids the extra click layer of having to click into the folder and then the movie. However, this situation is also much more difficult to detect, and it can lead to scenarios where a movie ends up owning a folder when it should not. Then you have other videos in that same movie folder and no way to reach them.

 

4.0 fixes this for all other content types, however I left it out of mixed content because I know it will draw complaints about having that extra click layer. Sooner or later though we will have to fix it.



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 03:07 AM

Another vote here for fixing up mixed content sooner than later please. :unsure: We only use mixed content for all videos based library's because we like the cleaner interface. Things are all fluffed up now. I can't even figure out how folders with seemingly identical file structures are displaying differently.  Going to have to watch via File Explorer until fixed. :(       Edit: Figured out how to rollback to 3.5.3 for now. Whew.


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 04:29 AM

Another vote here for fixing up mixed content sooner than later please. :unsure: We only use mixed content for all videos based library's because we like the cleaner interface. Things are all fluffed up now. I can't even figure out how folders with seemingly identical file structures are displaying differently.  Going to have to watch via File Explorer until fixed. :(       Edit: Figured out how to rollback to 3.5.3 for now. Whew.

 

Keep in mind the databases are different between the two versions, so when you do eventually upgrade back to 4.0, any activity between now and then will essentially be lost, as your upgrade has already happened.



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:13 AM

Keep in mind the databases are different between the two versions, so when you do eventually upgrade back to 4.0, any activity between now and then will essentially be lost, as your upgrade has already happened.

Thanks Luke, will do. I don't do anything fancy & I backup all my metadata and images so I am good. When I roll up to v4.x I'll just do a fresh install.



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 11:56 PM

Mixed content has the old practice of a single movie in a folder "owning the whole folder". This avoids the extra click layer of having to click into the folder and then the movie. However, this situation is also much more difficult to detect, and it can lead to scenarios where a movie ends up owning a folder when it should not. Then you have other videos in that same movie folder and no way to reach them.

 

4.0 fixes this for all other content types, however I left it out of mixed content because I know it will draw complaints about having that extra click layer. Sooner or later though we will have to fix it.

 

I guess v4.0.1.0 "fixed" this issue for all folders - meaning now, every folder, of every type of content, which contains a single movie will now require that extra layer. Count me among the users who strongly dislike this "solution." Every one of my movie files are in their own individual folders. Having that extra layer is a hassle, not merely because of the redundant click-through, but also because the metadata for each file - including the sort and display title data, which in my browsing usage is extremely important to me - does not transfer upward to the individual folder level. If I want my browsing experience to be even a little bit similar to the way it was before the latest updates, I will have to manually input all metadata at the folder level for every. frickin'. movie folder, which numbers in the thousands! No thank you. As far as I'm concerned, after years of satisfaction, this is as broken as it can get. Too bad.  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:14 AM

It's something we can look at improving. Thanks.



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:12 AM

Hi

 

I am having the same issue and have read the many posts to try and rectify the issue.

 

I am running Server Version 4.0.1.0 and after my readings I updated WMC to the latest Beta but it is showing Version 3.0.307.0 so i'm not sure if it worked.  I also use the default theme.

 

I was running Legacy Browsing as it displayed things the way I liked it.  My folder structure is very very simple and probably outdated.  I use Media Center Master to sort, file and name my media based on meta data from The Movie Database.

 

  Top Level Folder - "Movies"

   Second Level Folder - Movie Folder Named ie "Shawshank Redemtion, The"

   within that folder there is the move file itself, backdops, folder art, .nfo file, movie.xml file and a sub folder with the movie trailer.

 

If I have a movie collection it differs slightly

 

   Top Level Folder - "Movies"

   Second Level Folder - Collection Name - ie "X-Men Collection"

   Third Level Folders - Each individual movie  folder - ie "X-Men"  "Wolverine"  "Logan" 1 x backdrop, 1 x folder art plus a blank collection.xml file

    within each of those folders is the move file itself, backdops, folder art, .nfo file, movie.xml file and a sub folder with the movie trailer.

 

Since the new server update everything went haywire with each movie folder in WMC requiring a second click to get into  and the movie synopsis no longer displayed on each movie until I clicked into each one.  I also lost my view options, which was set to thumb strip and suddenly everything was Coverflow.

 

I have now turned off Legacy Browsing which restored the single movies to their normal selves with synopsis available in the first screen but now my collections are no longer showing as collections.

 

Previously X-Men Collection would be in the first thumb strip view then I would click in and see all the x-men movies in date of release order with their synopsis.

 

Now they are all lined up in a row in the first level view.

 

I tried the "Collapse Movies Into Collections" option in the View Options of WMC settings but that did not work and I could find nothing helpful on the Configure Server area either.

 

From reading it seems this might be a bug but trying to install the Beta WMC either didn't work or it didn't fix the problem.  Is this a wait for a fix issue or is there something I should be doing differently to get back to the way I was.

 

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

 

Below is screenshot showing my view when I choose movies - X-Men all loose and wandering around willy nilly...

 

Also, while I'm here is there any way to remove "Playlist" from the menu option?

 

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:14 AM

 

 

Also, while I'm here is there any way to remove "Playlist" from the menu option?

 

Yes, your home screen preferences in the web app. Thanks.



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:19 AM

I am having the same issue and have read the many posts to try and rectify the issue.

 

I am running Server Version 4.0.1.0 and after my readings I updated WMC to the latest Beta but it is showing Version 3.0.307.0 so i'm not sure if it worked.  I also use the default theme.

 

I was running Legacy Browsing as it displayed things the way I liked it.  My folder structure is very very simple and probably outdated.  I use Media Center Master to sort, file and name my media based on meta data from The Movie Database.

 

 

I guess v4.0.1.0 "fixed" this issue for all folders - meaning now, every folder, of every type of content, which contains a single movie will now require that extra layer. Count me among the users who strongly dislike this "solution." Every one of my movie files are in their own individual folders. Having that extra layer is a hassle, not merely because of the redundant click-through, but also because the metadata for each file - including the sort and display title data, which in my browsing usage is extremely important to me - does not transfer upward to the individual folder level. If I want my browsing experience to be even a little bit similar to the way it was before the latest updates, I will have to manually input all metadata at the folder level for every. frickin'. movie folder, which numbers in the thousands! No thank you. As far as I'm concerned, after years of satisfaction, this is as broken as it can get. Too bad.  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:

 

My setup is identical to the ones you both use, naming of movies as well as structure. I finally solved this a few days ago and I am not sure if this is the best, but I did not want to hassle with a roll back so this is what I did and it only took a very short time.

 

1. Updated to server 4.01.0 and the latest EMC beta 3.317 this solves most problems but in the EMC beta there is no longer a tick box for Legacy browsing.

2. I deleted all the libraries that were Content = Movies

3. Recreated the libraries with Content = Mixed and you no longer have the extra click and the collections under the top folder are either first in the Web client or are in alphabetic order in the EMC with Throg's themes.

 

I really don't know if that is a solution for the future, but since the devs are busy fixing other more pressing issues and since the conversion of the libraries was quick and uncomplicated I decided for this solution for the moment as I could not handle the broken legacy view for the movies. It worked fine for the TV Shows.



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Posted 28 January 2019 - 11:27 AM

I updated WMC to the latest Beta but it is showing Version 3.0.307.0 so i'm not sure if it worked.

 

 

If that's the version you see, no it did not work.  It should be .317.  Try to update to that.

 

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