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#21 maegibbons OFFLINE  

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:32 AM

As long as "the future" is before SD stops us downloading their data then thats fine.

If not you have screwed us over by introducing GraceNote to early.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 08:35 AM

Perhaps we need a small discussion group created, so that doesn't happen.

The channel mappings and all other planned Live TV enhancements, need to implemented and fully functional before SD support is removed.
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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:39 AM

The channel mappings and all other planned Live TV enhancements, need to implemented and fully functional before SD support is removed.

 

I don't understand the relationship between most of those features and SD.

 

Yes, we'd like to get all of that done as soon as possible but the guide source change doesn't impact most of it. (I understand the impact in this specific topic)



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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:03 AM

I don't understand the relationship between most of those features and SD.


People are still using SD, as GN doesn't fit completely (I'm sure @maegibbons can expand).

Without using XTeVe, I would have to rely on SD as well, otherwise the channels are all over the place for my IPTV source in Emby.

XTeVe does help somewhat, but it's not a total solution, or easy to pick up.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:07 AM

People are still using SD, as GN doesn't fit completely (I'm sure @maegibbons can expand).

Without using XTeVe, I would have to rely on SD as well, otherwise the channels are all over the place for my IPTV source in Emby.

XTeVe does help somewhat, but it's not a total solution, or easy to pick up.

 

That's all channel management stuff - not guide data.  I understand this particular issue may be related to guide data but most of the other channel management stuff is not.



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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:11 AM

That's all channel management stuff - not guide data. I understand this particular issue may be related to guide data but most of the other channel management stuff is not.


Without being able to correctly identify the channel, you won't get the correct guide data.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:12 AM

Without being able to correctly identify the channel, you won't get the correct guide data.

 

Okay, and that is the issue here but what does that have to do with "all other Live TV enhancements"?



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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:17 AM

Okay, and that is the issue here but what does that have to do with "all other Live TV enhancements"?


Whatever it is you and Luke have planned.

As there is no Emby Roadmap, we have to wait for an announcement.

If there was a "This is what we're planning" post, then we could all have input.

It is all in our best interests for you to deliver what your users want, rather than what you think they want.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:27 AM

Okay, and that is the issue here but what does that have to do with "all other Live TV enhancements"?

With SD and with any other XmlTv source I can access a file that shows all the EPG data. By you converting to GN and not allowing us to download a file with the full EPG data we can't set our channel lineups which in turn makes the Emby Guide Data useless. To me this is a guide issue as that is the source I am trying to use. 


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 11:36 AM

oh hello. people finally cottoning on to that which i admittedly over-moaned about a month ago. the only solution at present is xteve. this is not just about channel management but epg matching which has been non-existant since day 1. theres a reason why we've been using @maegibbons access database to fill these gaps for the last couple of years but the move to GN destroyed that too


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:54 AM

Yes channel logos from the guide data are supported.

Seems the program images you are getting from gracenote are generic, not specific to the episode. Is this the only thing Gracenote offers? My zap2it guide does the actual episode image in the guide. Since zap2it gets their guide data from Gracenote it seems plausible that Emby Guide Data should be able to get specific episode images from Gracenote as well. Can you look into this? 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 09:57 AM

Hi.  This is by design.  Except when showing episodes in context (e.g. inside a season folder) we choose to display the Series thumb or poster for it so that you can easily identify what series it is.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:59 AM

Hi.  This is by design.  Except when showing episodes in context (e.g. inside a season folder) we choose to display the Series thumb or poster for it so that you can easily identify what series it

Doesn't this pose a problem when doing series recordings from Live TV? All of my recordings will have the same thumb which makes it harder to identify each episode. For Live TV you should be using the episode thumb, not the series thumb. 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 11:10 AM

Doesn't this pose a problem when doing series recordings from Live TV? All of my recordings will have the same thumb which makes it harder to identify each episode. For Live TV you should be using the episode thumb, not the series thumb. 

 

Where, exactly, are you talking about?

 

We try to use Series identifying art when it is likely that multiple series will be shown on the same screen.  It can be quite difficult to identify a series from an episode thumb.



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 11:17 AM

Where, exactly, are you talking about?

 

We try to use Series identifying art when it is likely that multiple series will be shown on the same screen.  It can be quite difficult to identify a series from an episode thumb.

I'm referring to the program thumb used in the guide and also the poster that gets used to display the recording inside the season. With Emby Guide data you are displaying the series thumb for every episode of a program in the guide. When i use zap2it i see the actual episode thumb in the guide, not the series thumb. This then gets transferred to the poster after the recording finishes so each recording shows up in the season folder of the library with a different thumb for each episode. If you are doing the series thumb to identify the program in the guide then every recording has the same poster inside the series in the library. 



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 11:59 AM

Where, exactly, are you seeing thumbs in the guide?  What app?



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Posted 31 January 2019 - 12:13 PM

Where, exactly, are you seeing thumbs in the guide?  What app?

Clicking any program in the guide brings up the show synopsis with a thumb and all the other info about the show. I have included an example. This is on every Emby client you guys have. The issue is your not using the episode thumb for that particular program, you are using the series thumb. Which makes every episode recording have the same poster in recordings. The example I have provided shows the actual episode thumb I get from zap2it. Your emby guide data shows the series thumb instead. 

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 01:09 PM

That will be improved with the next release. Thanks.

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Posted 28 February 2019 - 03:25 PM

That will be improved with the next release. Thanks.

is this still in the works? Haven't seen any improvement in the newest betas. Also, when will we get the ability to see the channel names from GN so we can set our m3u files correctly to map EPG? This was also brought up in this thread and never flushed out on when it will be happening. Its necessary before SD compatibility is removed. 



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 03:27 PM

Yes the adjustments have been made for the repeat indicators.






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