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#1 daedalus OFFLINE  

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 06:54 AM

changing the episode order seems to just "overlay" the new metadata over the existing file order, and not "moving" files in the new order

 

files are named by airing order

 

Attached File  aired_order.PNG   193.92KB   6 downloads

^ aired order

 

Attached File  dvd_order_e01.PNG   310.05KB   6 downloads

^ dvd order - E01 should now point to filename of 'E11 Serenety'

 

Attached File  dvd_order_e11.PNG   212.42KB   6 downloads

^ dvd order - E11 points still to "E11 Serenity" but just had got new metadata


Edited by daedalus, 14 January 2019 - 07:12 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 01:23 PM

Can you show complete screenshot examples as these are only snippets and doesn't tell the full story. thanks !



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:14 PM

samples should suffice, cause its the same for all episodes

the order doesn't change, it's only the metadata which get changed

 

this here is the series "Firefly" if you set up a dummy season you should be able to reproduce


Edited by daedalus, 14 January 2019 - 03:15 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:42 PM

Is tvdb your highest priority metadata fetcher for both series and episodes, for this library?



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:53 PM

tried to tear up both, tvdb and tmdb, it's the same on both

metadata itself get fetched and show up correctly, emby just don't "link" the files to the new order



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 03:56 PM

Tested, working just fine  here for the Firefly series. I see the differences between aired, absolute and dvd orders.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

so in dvd order, episode 01 points to the file of episode 11?



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:13 PM

Is there a misunderstanding of this feature?  Your media has to be saved in the order you are requesting it to be presented in.  It will not re-arrange your already saved airdate media to be presented in dvd order.  So S01E01.The Train Job.ext can never be S01E01.Serinity.ext.


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:16 PM

so in dvd order, episode 01 points to the file of episode 11?

 

I have episode 1 as serenity, followed by the train job.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:22 PM

as said, serenity also shows up as episode 1 in dvd order here

but episode 1 always points to the filesystem episode 1 regardless the selected oder

 

the problem is what Happy2Play mentioned

if it is intended, i think it's wrong and should behave like i described

the metadata field also states "Display Order:" and not something like "Present Order on Filesystem:"



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:33 PM

so you don't use dvd numbers to resort to the set display order, but instead you just refetch the new order

also just mentioned you removed the dvd/absolute order fields from the metadata edit screen that's why you don't use them

 

i still think current behavior on this is wrong, you should keep these numbers and rearrange according to what ever display order is set


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:44 PM

Yes happy2play is right.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:50 PM

so you should reconsider this behavior or, if you don't want us to be able to change this on the fly, rename the metadata field to reflect it's real function


Edited by daedalus, 14 January 2019 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2019 - 04:51 PM

It's possible to reconsider the design of this feature in the future, but if you look at the testing thread for when we introduced it, it never really came up at that time. In fact, I think there was feedback that users liked it this way.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:01 PM

seems also to been confusing in the testing thread

 

Yes the point is to present dvd order to the user, and that's what it does, but you don't need to change the way the files are named.

 

 

I'm guessing you have the files named based on dvd order? They should be named based on original order.

 

 

i personally don't think actual behavior it's neither logic nor convenient but if it's so ok

 

but you should mention this somewhere, naming wiki does not cover the ordering topic at all and as said the metadata field also states "Display Order:" and not something like "Present Order on Filesystem:"



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:02 PM

Thanks, yes I agree it should be documented in the wiki. Thanks.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:04 PM

better should be changed :rolleyes:

 

consider you would have recorded firefly and airing order turned out to be wrong, or if you would support the custom order settings from TMDB and/or someone decides that he now prefers one order over the other, you would have to rename all your files instead of just switching the display order


Edited by daedalus, 14 January 2019 - 05:13 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:47 PM

I also misunderstood this for the same reasons daedalus pointed out. I agree that display order is not the best name for the feature if this is the case. Perhaps we can have a display order and order present option?

 

Some users use an initial means of sorting media such as Sonarr which defaults to aired order on import. It is likely easier for those people to change from aired order to the desired display order in Emby without renaming rather than trying to fight with external tools to keep things in-sync.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to impose that Emby is meant to fix desired features from other tools but since this feature already exists in working state and would be people's default source of viewing, it would be the easiest solution. Some seasons may need to be modified/added/removed if swapping between orders though. Example: Aired 4 seasons -> DVD 3 seasons (can happen) or Aired 4 seasons -> Absolute 1 season (only has one).

 

Thanks!


Edited by Elegant, 14 January 2019 - 05:50 PM.






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