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hotwheelzffx
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How about just auto-logging off after X minutes of idle? That way the user login screen would appear on app launch (probably most of the time).

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So what I'm saying is what we need is just an easier way to switch users - not a whole new way of creating and managing users and logging on.

Yep, know what you're talking about and that would work. But my point is that if you have 4 people in the house and 5 devices you have to setup and login 20 times to get everything cached for it to work. :(

 

Better than what we have now however. :)

  • 1 year later...
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On 1/18/2019 at 5:34 PM, cayars said:

Yep, know what you're talking about and that would work. But my point is that if you have 4 people in the house and 5 devices you have to setup and login 20 times to get everything cached for it to work. :(

 

Better than what we have now however. :)

For me it's not a matter of being able to switch between users that an admin creates. Because the options for making the users visible on the login screen, is to either make the user visible remotely via the login screen or only on the home network or not at all (so they just log into the app and it goes into their account when the app is open). Well if it's a remote user and we default to the login screen (as suggested), I don't want every remote user to see the user profiles of anyone else but their own (or the ones they should see).

 

For example, I allow access to emby connect users Johnny and Johnny's daughter. In order to make Johnny's daughter account to appear on the home screen (since I, as the admin, had Johnny create a separate emby connect account and I added Johnny's daughter as a separate user). Now I have to make Johnny and Johnny's daughter account visible to all remote users so Johnny can see his and his daughters account?

 

What I'm suggesting is allowing the users like Johnny to create separate profiles within his emby connect account within the app. The only options for them to toggle is the content rating allowed and the option to set a time limit. The window dressing is when the person opens the app on their device, there's an extra step for them to choose the profile they want to use. 

 

Or maybe just add an option to allow 1 user to see another user's account? So if Johnny creates his own emby connect account and one for his daughter, and I add both as users to the server, but then add an option for me as the admin to allow Johnny and Johnny's daughter accounts to be tied together somehow via a checkbox in the user settings. So maybe when I click to edit Johnny's account, maybe there could be an option to ("group with" and then I can pick another user for Johnny to be grouped with (in this case Johnny's daughter) with the ability to group multiple users). Then with this option selected and a user defined to group with Johnny, when Johnny opens his app, he only sees the accounts he's grouped with?

 

Unless it's possible to make an account viewable outside the network to just certain individuals (currently if that option is ticked off, any remote user can see the user account)

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I'm sorry, I replied and shouldn't have.  Didn't see this was a feature request.  My bad!

I was going to suggest opening a thread and I searched to see if something already existed (this thread) :(

Sorry about that.  I'm going to delete my previous post.

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14 hours ago, cayars said:

I'm sorry, I replied and shouldn't have.  Didn't see this was a feature request.  My bad!

I was going to suggest opening a thread and I searched to see if something already existed (this thread) :(

Sorry about that.  I'm going to delete my previous post.

I removed mine as well. It's all love in here. This app is great.

  • 1 month later...
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Agree with Sab39, I would like a feature like this too.

When you conect to a remote server and have family members on your house, and the server is accessed by other people that dont live in your house, just remote connection as you do, the only way to see the login screen is via admin unchecking "hide this user from login screens when connected remotely" and also need to have your family members as another set of users on that server, this triggers the result that every other remote user that makes to the login screen can see our login user information, and as a collateral result these others remote users that has the option unchecked (hide from login screen when connected remotely) can be seen via my my own login screen selection.

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ginjaninja
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On 20/12/2018 at 21:24, cayars said:

Yea, I have no issue using this feature as is.  When you start the app it shows a few family names and the user just picks which user they are.  Some use a PIN and some don't.  Outside my home network they need to login with a username/password.

 

Works great, just takes a bit of setup for the users.

im not following..is there already an easy way to mark when my wife is watching with me vs one of us watching on our own.....i can appreciate that we need to log in and out when watching on our own (helped by blank user password)..but how can we tell emby when we are both watching...eg on roku....

 

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7 hours ago, ginjaninja said:

im not following..is there already an easy way to mark when my wife is watching with me vs one of us watching on our own.....i can appreciate that we need to log in and out when watching on our own (helped by blank user password)..but how can we tell emby when we are both watching...eg on roku....

 

You want the "Also Watching" like Blue Neon Night and the "Also Here" like WMC has. I think those were the only clients to ever have this feature.

Reference: Request #79: [Request] "Also Here" missing
This is on our issue tracker for the Roku. It is on our radar to complete eventually.

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dani75alves
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realmente seria uma opção muito útil, como já foi mencionado, esperamos que conseguir acrescentar essa funcionalidade, assim outras pessoas que fizeram remoto acesso não conseguiram ver os perfis disponíveis no servidor Emby. Uma vez que ficariam restritos a determinado grupo de perfil.

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3 hours ago, dani75alves said:

it would really be a very useful option, as already mentioned, we hope that we will be able to add this functionality, so other people who have done remote access have not been able to see the profiles available on the Emby server. Since they would be restricted to a certain profile group.

Hi.  Changes coming in the 4.6 server release may accomplish what you want as only users that have previously logged in on a device will be shown on that screen.

serverebps01
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+1

  • 6 months later...
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any updates? this request is almost 3 years old (few days left). it's nice to have the account's profile switcher like netflix/plex does. my 4yo kid knows how to operate netflix/plex. but emby, he'll see everything that is supposedly not for his age.

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9 hours ago, INITIATIVE said:

he'll see everything that is supposedly not for his age.

Hi.  If you use our parental controls and password protect your other users, he will not.

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16 hours ago, ebr said:

Hi.  If you use our parental controls and password protect your other users, he will not.

Yeah, that makes sense, but the ease to switch profile/user is not there.
(Or, I haven't explored it yet, if it's existing feature already, please enlighten me.)

  • 8 months later...
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Good afternoon,
It's a resource that my family and I struggle for lack of too many defense profiles for the same account, but for the time and for the time the resource would believe this is a lost loss. But it's a bit of a shame because one of the few features it lacks is a magnificent tool.
adavis219
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I simply have my main account (used for emby connect) with a 4 digit key needed for ONLY my account, all other users have no passcode and no access to server settings. If they somehow get signed out I have them input my remote IP and they’re back to business, I’m not sure what your setup is but this works really well for me especially with most people using my server not being good with tech at all.

bastionntb
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On 1/17/2019 at 1:33 PM, Luke said:

If the apps were able to remember multiple logins, would that help?

This 100%. Any motion on this yet?

 

It would be nice if multiple people logged into the app on a single device it would show the profile selection screen, similar to how Netflix does it.

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On 1/17/2019 at 10:33 PM, Luke said:

If the apps were able to remember multiple logins, would that help?

This sounds like a good way.

What needs to be made sure IMO:

1. Remote users need to sign in first before "fast user change" is available. Two thoughts on this:

  • Maybe some sort of PIN for "fast login" should be considered as there might be children in the house (e.g. your siblings + children) that shouldn't access to accounts that can watch unappropriate stuff (e.g. Scream for a little 6 years old) for them.
  • Maybe expanding the PIN login to remote users as well could be a quick win for this.
    Prerequesite for the PIN login to work would be that the user must have logged in to the device with User + PW previously.

2. When a user actually logs out the credential should also be deleted from that device.

PS: Like post #1 to support the request. 😉

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Guest RXWatcher
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A request was made to keep the discussion in this thread so I'm here basically asking that we have an option to set a pin to login on previously logged in remote devices. We have this for local logins.

We're 90% there because we have this pin feature for local logins and we have the option to 'Hide this user from login screens on devices they've never signed into'.

If we had an option to 'log in using a numeric pin code on devices we've previously logged into' would greatly enhance using Emby for remote users.

In my case it would be for my *cognitively challenged* uncle to allow user switching in his home. He could switch it if I told him to press '9' 4 times and put it next to the TV in large type but there is no way this guy is going to enter a password like how it is required today. I'd change his profile picture to him and make it the first user so he just has to select, enter 9999 and be in the system.

I can see it being used for children too. I could make age appropriate emby accounts with parental restrictions for my remote friends. The kids could then know to enter in 1225(christmas) and get into their shows.

I think this feature would go a long way to helping a lot of Emby people. You guys as so close with the using the pin on local access and the 'Hide this user from login screens on devices they've never signed into'.

Thank you for listening. I mean that. its a breath of fresh air to have a product team that actually listens to the end users.

 

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Keep in mind using a 4 digit when local is one thing but using a 4 digit PIN remotely is quite another and highly frowned upon in security circles.

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11 minutes ago, cayars said:

Keep in mind using a 4 digit when local is one thing but using a 4 digit PIN remotely is quite another and highly frowned upon in security circles.

PIN comes only into play after the user had logged in first with User + PW into that specific device. If the user tries to login into another device for the first time normal authentication will be required again.

What could then go wrong with the PIN? (honest question)

Guest RXWatcher
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The weak link is if someone observed you entering in the 4 digit code and then had physical access to your device. Let's take an example of a child.

  1. Pins are set for all family members on a FireStick 4K in the living room.
  2. Dad has access to content not appropriate for children.
  3. Child watches dad enter in code and knows it.
  4. Child uses code to get access to inappropriate content on the same Firestick 4K that dad entered the pin on or another device that dad logged in on previously.

The above is an example where you should be more aware of what your child is watching/doing on your shared devices.

He cant go to his room and log in on his ipad if he just knows the pin code because he wouldnt know the password for the initial linking unless dad logged onto that device initially. The weak link is dad's password. If the kid knows dad's password then he could gain access to the inappropriate content today even without having a pin so having a pin or not is pointless.

He is more likely to observe dad's password if dad has to enter it all the time vs if he only had to enter it once and then used a pin going forward.

 

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