mutu310 70 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Hello @@mutu310 Thanks for your comments. I can understand your viewpoint, however I had to make a decision as to how best to prioritise and make use of the resources at our disposal. You are correct in that there are more active Intel based Synology systems in the field and this of course has a bearing, although not for the reasons your suppose. It's all about getting 'mileage' on the system, and to do this we need a good sized pool of users to make sure we get good coverage of both core functionality and scenario specific use cases. The Mono and .NET Core releases of Emby Server share the same code base, so we're not testing Emby Server per se, but all of the plumbing and support that goes around it. I've written previously about setting expectations, as there is nothing .NET Core that's guaranteed to give us instant order of magnitude performance improvements; and in the interim the Mono project has further incorporated Microsoft source code from .NET Framework and .NET Core. (https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/51013-net-core-stable-release/?p=490183) Work on taking advantage of newer libraries, such as Skia, give us tangible performance improvements that sit entirely outside of the runtime component of Emby Server: https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/52160-improved-image-processing-performance/. The Armada 370 88F6707 SoC was released on 2013-03-21, so in this context it's an 'old' processor with performance commensurate with its age (for this type of processor). Whilst it does have floating point support, it doesn't support NEON, which also limits it's overall performance. We will look at this processor and it's viability as soon as we are satisfied we have a viable .NET Core package that is suitable for general release and widespread adoption. In the meantime, please feel free to send across your logs using the 'send logs' utility and I'll take a look at your system. Best - James Will send those logs later. I just need to know what you mean by the 'send logs' utility. In the meantime, I'm wondering what you use NEON for. If you mean for transcoding, then just forget it: nobody would be able to use such a feature anyway because there's no way this particular hardware could ever keep up. Also, I respectfully disagree with your low expectations regarding .NET Core. Mono is inducing extra overhead that takes up almost all of the resources left available to the system, leaving the actual code with little leeway. Edited November 22, 2018 by mutu310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) Hello @@mutu310 For the 'send logs' this utility : https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Wiki/wiki/Synology-:-How-to-Send-us-Support-Logs NEON (SIMD) isn't exclusively used for transcoding. SSL processing is just one area in which it can be used to significantly improve performance, here's an example https://blog.cloudflare.com/arm-takes-wing/. Best - James Edited November 22, 2018 by solabc16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutu310 70 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) @@solabc16, just as an example, did a small test by just scanning the media library from the scheduled task. Take a look at this. 69.6% plus 6% CPU usage being consumed by mono-sgen, 136.1MB of private memory and 6.3MB of shared memory. Edited November 22, 2018 by mutu310 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 Hello @@mutu310 A full library scan is an expectedly intensive task, however it would typically be set for quiet hours / overnight; so it has minimal impact on active users. It is also worth noting that the impact of a full scan on a new library will be significantly greater than that of a scan on an established one. The library scan is influenced by not only the size of the library, but also the options you have enabled and the performance of the 3rd party metadata providers. I'll be able to tell more once I've had a look at the logs. Best - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutu310 70 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Hello @@mutu310 A full library scan is an expectedly intensive task, however it would typically be set for quiet hours / overnight; so it has minimal impact on active users. It is also worth noting that the impact of a full scan on a new library will be significantly greater than that of a scan on an established one. The library scan is influenced by not only the size of the library, but also the options you have enabled and the performance of the 3rd party metadata providers. I'll be able to tell more once I've had a look at the logs. Best - James James, the library scan was only done as a test. In reality, it had nothing to pick up, therefore it should not have been querying APIs and whatnot to add new items, but simply checking to see if there was anything new (which there wasn't). I'll upload the logs in a few hours' time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everbrave 62 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Now I get no metadata again. I didn't touch the server since last repair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36877 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 How to report a problem: https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/790-how-to-report-a-problem/?view=getnewpost Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Hello @@Everbrave If you still have the issue after updating to 3.6.0.68-beta, please run the send logs utility and post the reference here. https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Wiki/wiki/Synology-:-How-to-Send-us-Support-Logs Best - James Edited November 23, 2018 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everbrave 62 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Hello @@Everbrave If you still have the issue after updating to 3.6.0.68-beta, please run the send logs utility and post the reference here. https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Wiki/wiki/Synology-:-How-to-Send-us-Support-Logs Best - James yes, the issue persists also in .68; I am currently refreshing metadata fror the movies library. Log has been uploaded. Again, the Windows version and that for DS415+ work correctly; it is only the DS918+ Thanks EDIT: I had to restart my DS918+ and rescan the library to rectify the situation. It could be an update installation issue. Edited November 24, 2018 by Everbrave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kconfer12@gmail.com 0 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Hello, I'd like to test the .NET Beta. I have a Synology DS916+ which I believe makes it of the braswell family. Thank you! KC Edited November 23, 2018 by kconfer12@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amviewer 0 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Hi, I would like to test the .NET Core Beta. I've got the Synology DS218+ Intel Appollolake. Thanks. Nevermind I've installed it from Docker. Edited November 29, 2018 by amviewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxLeexx 0 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Any chance I can test the beta I have a DS1817+ and DS918, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Hello @@xxLeexx, @@amviewer, @@kconfer12@gmail.com, @@adamzetpl, @@numkem, @@patje57, @@Huede82 Thanks for getting in touch. We're just in the process of completing a major update to the .NET Core package, so as soon as this is done, I'll be in touch. Thanks again for your interest and support. Best - James Edited December 9, 2018 by solabc16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huede82 1 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 HI I also have a DS716+II Main playback device is a Samsung KS9080 Series 9 with Emby App So, when you need more test-user, I am interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Thanks @@Huede82, I've added you to the list in the above post. Best - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postboy99 3 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 @@solabc16 Can you please add me to the beta. I already tried it within a docker, but got a VAAPI Problem and now want to see, if it is a docker only problem. See https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/66078-36074-no-vaapi/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinswain 10 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I'm interested in testing this, I have a DS918+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Hello @@chinswain Thanks for your interest and to all the others above, news on the next steps for this programme coming in the New Year. Best - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faca 0 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Hi,I would like to test the .NET Core Beta.I havethe Synology DS218+Thnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Thanks for your interest @@Faca, news on the next steps for this programme coming in the New Year. Best - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution solabc16 379 Posted January 31, 2019 Author Solution Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) Hello All Thanks for your contributions to this thread and to all of you who took part in the development testing. I'll be closing this thread soon. Please see this new thread within the testing area for the latest updates on .NET Core : https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/69296-net-core-native-package-availability/. Best- James Edited January 31, 2019 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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