Windows 10 utilize Dolby Atmos integration

[BurntTech 6]

Is it possible to use Atmos application for windows 10 to use Atmos 7.1.4. The receiver currently only registers 7.1 with the current version of emby theater. The demo media in the Dolby Atmos application registered with receiver as atmos 7.1.4. Is there another way to play mkv atmos with emby?

[Luke 37048]

Are you using the windows store app, or the windows desktop app?

[BurntTech 6]

That was the windows desktop app. I tried the windows store emby theater and got transcoding for not supported audio and video. It transcoded them to 5.1.

 

Hacksaw ridge mkv with no processing was the movie I tested

 

If I run the Amaze trailer file from link below the receiver detects this as "Dolby Atmos/D +" running it in the windows and TV app

https://download.dolby.com/us/en/test-tones/dolby-atmos-trailer_amaze_1080.mp4

 

Using The windows desktop app emby theater, The weird part is on my receiver it still marks the test mp4 as "7.1 ch B" which is multiCh PCM in emby but sounds come out of the heights (might be a mental thing but doesn't sound the same). I'm using LX-701 Pioneer for this room. 

 

Then if I went back to windows store app with the test mp4 it registered as Atmos. So the the big problem is my 4k movies would transcode in the windows store app.

[Guest asrequested]

So, to clarify what Atmos is. It's object based processing. If you bitstream your audio, the metadata is sent to your receiver for processing. And then it sends the processed audio to the designated speakers. So it's 7.1+Atmos. Not 10 or 12 channels. The Atmos processing in windows 10, is a software processing to simulate the same output. I avoid it all costs. I have 7.1.2 Atmos, with Atmos enabled speakers. 

 

If you've configured everything, correctly, what you should see in your receiver's display, is atmos. I have a Pioneer SC-95, and that's what I get.

 

How have you configured your cabling and Theater settings?

[Guest asrequested]

If you can't get it to work, setup logging for mpv, and I can take a look at what's happening.

 

https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/50975-how-to-enable-mpv-logging-for-theater/

[BurntTech 6]

I have the dolby app installed and when connected through hdmi my options are 7.1 and atmos for home theater(assumed to be software). The apps that trigger atmos sound good whether its using software based atmos i'm not sure. the atmos works correctly in the windows store app and sounds good. I don't have any of the encoding checked for bypass in the theater app. is there any other options I would need?

 

Emby Windows Store App: works well for mp4 atmos (my mkv cause transcoding)

Emby Windows Desktop App: doesn't register as atmos for mp4 or mkv

 

Which app are you using?  So from the sounds of it dolby app is a UWP integration and the option your using is bitstream through to receiver. I'll do some research on switching my HDMI to setup bitstream instead for a test.

 

Edit: Do I really just need to check the encoding passthrough in emby theater?

Edited August 7, 2018 by BurntTech

[Guest asrequested]

What dolby app? You don't need anything, just bitstream the audio. 

[Guest asrequested]

All you need is this, and make sure you have configured windows audio to 7.1

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Doofus

[Guest asrequested]

Did you get it working?

[BurntTech 6]

I'll test this once i'm done with work 

[BurntTech 6]

Thanks doofus i'm glad it was that simple. receiver now records the hacksaw ridge as dolby atmos/truehd.

[Guest asrequested]

Happy to help. If you need more tweaks for mpv, I can help

[BurntTech 6]

I'll save those topics for different thread mpv player in linux full screen :-) I can now enjoy Atmos and 4k using a windows 10 laptop. Next is to figure out HDR if you have any thread links or if that is still in the works. Thanks again.

[Guest asrequested]

MPV will handle HDR, automatically, using Perceptual Quantization. The newer builds do it better. There's a new Theater build on it's way. But there are some tweaks, to adjust the picture. I've got multiple posts on that, in different threads.

[pclausen 41]

All you need is this, and make sure you have configured windows audio to 7.1

 

 

If audio passthrough is enabled for everything, why would it matter if Windows is configured for 7.1?  I have a 11.1 speaker setup via a Denon AVR-X6200W (and a 2 channel external amp for channels 10 and 11), and Atmos/DTS:X is working fine (lights up on the receiver and I get the desired effects through all speakers) for me with whatever the default windows audio configuration is (2.0 I think). 

[Guest asrequested]

If audio passthrough is enabled for everything, why would it matter if Windows is configured for 7.1? I have a 11.1 speaker setup via a Denon AVR-X6200W (and a 2 channel external amp for channels 10 and 11), and Atmos/DTS:X is working fine (lights up on the receiver and I get the desired effects through all speakers) for me with whatever the default windows audio configuration is (2.0 I think).

 

Purely for bitstreaming, the channel config doesn't matter. But there is an upmix setting, that requires the channels to be correctly configured. I'm just covering the bases, should that be used. Also, if for some reason a person doesn't understand the bitstreaming settings or doesn't want to bitstream, MPV will decode to pcm and send that to receiver/tv. So windows audio needs to be configured, correctly. Another reason would be if you have multichannel aac etc. Edited August 11, 2018 by Doofus

[1971camaroguy 23]

Pardon my ignorance, whats the difference between the windows store and windows desktop app?

 

Link to the desktop app? Is it this one?  https://emby.media/emby-theater.html

 

I have emby running on a NAS am setting up a stand-alone PC running emby theater on windows...my concern is making sure I am able to passthrough atmos tracks with no transcoding...I want to make sure I get the right one. I am a paid subscriber too.

 

Thanks

[Guest asrequested]

Pardon my ignorance, whats the difference between the windows store and windows desktop app?

 

Link to the desktop app? Is it this one?  https://emby.media/emby-theater.html

 

I have emby running on a NAS am setting up a stand-alone PC running emby theater on windows...my concern is making sure I am able to passthrough atmos tracks with no transcoding...I want to make sure I get the right one. I am a paid subscriber too.

 

Thanks

 

The UI is the same, the player is different. The store app, presently uses the windows media player, and is limited to what it can play/support. The desktop app, uses mpv as it's player. MPV can play almost anything, and can be configured in many ways to change or improve playback. For your usage, you'll need the desktop app.

Edited August 12, 2018 by Doofus

[1971camaroguy 23]

Perfect, thanks again

 

I installed the desktop app and found those settings. I have yet to try it but I feel like it's going to work fine. 

 

I have a Nvidia Shield, and rather than monkey with that I figured I would build a decent stand alone PC (Running Emby Theater) strictly for my Movie Library.

 

I have a Marantz 7.2.2 Receiver and Klispch speakers and my PC is a small form factor Dell Optiplex 990 with an i3 proccessor, 16gb ram and a 240GB SSD.

 

Plans are stripping windows 10 down to bare bones and having the Emby Theater interface auto boot into the full screen or run it as a shell. I don't want any traces of it being a PC lol.

 

My room has a Optma HD42x projector and a 109" 16:9 acoustically transparent screen...nothing super fancy but it will get the job done.

[BurntTech 6]

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Little off topic 

 

The bitstreaming works like a champ. Can you do automatic failback to prologic (I think) to play stereo sounds across all speakers when only in 2 channel mode? This would make it easier to not have to example audio modes on receivers to the family.   The example i'm thinking of are on a pc after i'm done with movies in emby I might want to use music and have all the speakers playing without having to change the receiver options. If there isn't options in windows I would be curious if there is receiver options for this on some models. For the home theater room I use the multizone which inturn uses every speaker on every zone which is nice but manual and doesn't switch back to supporting bitstream in this mode. Might even be windows driver/software for this?

 

I'm already going to have to replace the office receiver anyway since it doesn't support some dts and truehd audio and switches to PCM and leaves out the voice channels  Works amazing on basement and the family room receivers.

[Guest asrequested]

Are you talking about audio like stereo aac or mp3 etc?

 

Oh you mean just for music? Just enable the upmix, option.

Edited August 14, 2018 by Doofus

[BurntTech 6]

Ah geez, i scrolled down and saw the upmix! That will work great for my mp3/flac but for spotify i might have to look are something like speaker fill in the old days 

[Guest asrequested]

There is an ac3enc option for mpv or you could probably use the upmix command in the mpv.conf, too. I can walk you through that, later, if you want to try it?

[ehgreiz 0]

All you need is this, and make sure you have configured windows audio to 7.1

 

 

sorry to revive a dead thread but I cannot see these settings in my Emby Server/Player on my TV. Can you help me with this? I have a LG c8 which can be connected either directly to my TV via HDMI or through the LG Emby App, but playing TrueHD bluray's through emby doesnt indicate on my Samsung N950 Soundbar connected to the TV via HDMI Arc that it is streaming dolby atmos.

 

edit: nevermind, found the setting via the windows desktop version of emby theater, rather than the windows store version

Edited June 10, 2019 by ehgreiz

[Luke 37048]

Glad you figured it out.