jrcorwin 7 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1.) Is there any ETA on when the absolutely wonderful Live TV guide from the server side of Emby will end up in the Apple TV app? 2.) The files in my TV Shows and Movies libraries correctly trigger the frame rate change on both my Apple TV 4K and my Apple TV 4. Should Live TV as well? I have two "tuner devices." One is a local HD-Homerun, while the other is an m3u. The m3u streams have UK frame rates (25p), which I verified with VLC, but Emby doesn't seem to pick up on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 1) Sorry, not at this time. 2) This is all being handled by the OS and device but it depends on information existing in the video stream so maybe that information just isn't there (or in the right place) for the Live TV streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 1) Sorry, not at this time. 2) This is all being handled by the OS and device but it depends on information existing in the video stream so maybe that information just isn't there (or in the right place) for the Live TV streams. Thank you. The information is there. VLC sees it, but it must not be in the right place and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 1) Sorry, not at this time. 2) This is all being handled by the OS and device but it depends on information existing in the video stream so maybe that information just isn't there (or in the right place) for the Live TV streams. I don’t know if this is helpful at all, but I thought I would mention it. I managed to get my IPTV channels into the Plex “Live TV and DVR” feature by using a program that basically creates a phantom HD-Homerun. (Sort of...I don’t know how to discribe this magic haha) Anyway, I can watch them in Plex, just as I can in Emby. The same exact IPTV Channels from the exact same m3u file. The only difference is... Plex can see the frame rate into and triggers the Apple TV to switch to 25p. So it is there, but Emby doesn’t see it for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corey 312 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I think it’s be helpful to see the contents of the M3U file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) I think it’s be helpful to see the contents of the M3U file.I’d be happy to provide @@ebr with it, if it would be helpful. I’d rather not post it in the open though. It’s provided by an IPTV service I pay for. https://rapidiptv.me Edited February 22, 2018 by jrcorwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 You can pm it to him. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 366 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) https://rapidiptv.meYou are aware that this is not the real Rapid but a rippoff of the original ?! Original Rapid stopped using this name for approx. a year now, because of those scam sites using their name. Read a lot of topics already on other forums, of people losing money, because they didn't get what they paid for.. Edited February 22, 2018 by Senna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 You are aware that this is not the real Rapid but a rippoff of the original ?! Original Rapid stopped using this name for approx. a year now, because of those scam sites using their name. Are you sure about that? It’s been working like a dream and came highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 366 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 But for how long... so don't do year subscriptions with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 But for how long... so don't do year subscriptions with them Just monthly for now. Thanks for the warning though! I’ll keep an eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senna 366 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) That's the safest way to test new providers if you don't know your way around with iptv, by doing monthly subs. Edited February 22, 2018 by Senna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corey 312 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I’d be happy to provide @@ebr with it, if it would be helpful. I’d rather not post it in the open though. It’s provided by an IPTV service I pay for. https://rapidiptv.me As Luke said if you can PM it to me that’d be great. I’m one of the Apple TV devs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) Plex: Emby: Edited February 22, 2018 by jrcorwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Are those screenshots supposed to demonstrate some kind of problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Are those screenshots supposed to demonstrate some kind of problem? No, just showing the difference in refresh rate shown via the tvOS developer HUD. One is seeing it in the stream, while the other is not. The plus on the Emby side is that it is direct streaming, whereas with Plex it's a full on transcode unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 No, just showing the difference in refresh rate shown via the tvOS developer HUD. One is seeing it in the stream, while the other is not. The plus on the Emby side is that it is direct streaming, whereas with Plex it's a full on transcode unfortunately. If Plex is transcoding it, then the refresh rate is probably being adjusted there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 If Plex is transcoding it, then the refresh rate is probably being adjusted there. It should be picked up regardless. Other items that direct stream trigger the frame rate change. This should as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 But neither one of your screenshots indicates that the stream contains any information on the refresh rate of the item... It is possible that our Live TV process is not passing along the parameter if it is there (or simply doesn't have the ability to) - Luke will need to confirm that. However, I don't see any evidence that Plex is doing anything differently other than the fact that they are transcoding the item which changes everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 But neither one of your screenshots indicates that the stream contains any information on the refresh rate of the item... It is possible that our Live TV process is not passing along the parameter if it is there (or simply doesn't have the ability to) - Luke will need to confirm that. However, I don't see any evidence that Plex is doing anything differently other than the fact that they are transcoding the item which changes everything. The first one certainly does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The first one certainly does... Where? The "Video format desc" looks identical to me. It contains video range information, but not frame rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Where? The "Video format desc" looks identical to me. It contains video range information, but not frame rate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14862 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 79DC9A64-029E-411D-86A5-4D2CE7BF9B8A.jpeg That is just showing what the display is set to. How it got set that way is the question and both incoming stream information sets appear to be the same. Notice it does note the dynamic range setting. We will confirm whether or not we 1) have the information about the frame rate from the source in this instance and 2) are passing it on in the manifest if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 For the next release we are adding the frame rate to the manifest when we have the information available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcorwin 7 Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 That is just showing what the display is set to. How it got set that way is the question and both incoming stream information sets appear to be the same. Notice it does note the dynamic range setting. We will confirm whether or not we 1) have the information about the frame rate from the source in this instance and 2) are passing it on in the manifest if so. Ahh...I see. Thank you for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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