swhitmore 781 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Now that Emby is starting to support Tuners more natively, would it be possible for Emby to also fetch images natively? With the new Hauppauge support (which is great btw, thank you), I'm not able to grab images for the videos. Since Emby is already amazing at fetching images, would it be possible to extend this to Live TV? Edited January 12, 2018 by swhitmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36888 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yes schedules direct has great images. There are no plans to hook in metadata providers because without identifiers the risk for wrong matches is very high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Thanks Luke. Unfortunately I don't have that option in Australia. I wonder how NextPVR does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36888 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 They query internet providers, which we used to do as well, but without having any imdb/tmdb identifiers, all we have is the title, and the risk of incorrect matching is very high. It happened to us quite frequently where the wrong movie poster would become attached to a movie, and i have even seen it myself in some screenshots of next pvr data. So going that route is not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) They query internet providers, which we used to do as well, but without having any imdb/tmdb identifiers, all we have is the title, and the risk of incorrect matching is very high. It happened to us quite frequently where the wrong movie poster would become attached to a movie, and i have even seen it myself in some screenshots of next pvr data. So going that route is not perfect. Yeah, fair enough. I've seen the same thing with NextPVR. Maybe it's worth making the UI a little more friendly when there is no images. Currently this is what I see, and it honestly looks really out of place to the rest of the UI. I would actually prefer removing the 'Programs' tab all together and just jump straight to the guide. Edited January 13, 2018 by swhitmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Sometimes when NPVR gets the wrong image and I'm feeling enthusiastic I change it in NPVRs database, usually for the common repeating stuff, like local news programmes. Bit of a mission though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Sometimes when NPVR gets the wrong image and I'm feeling enthusiastic I change it in NPVRs database, usually for the common repeating stuff, like local news programmes. Bit of a mission though. Thanks, I might try this. How do you change it in the database? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 You find this directory C:\Users\Public\NPVR\Media\Shows or your equivalent and you get stuff like this inside it... So you find some artwork and add it to the directory with the same type of names and I usually modify an existing -catalog file to make a new one with the new image names in - generally seems to work if you rerun the NPVR guide update and the Emby guide update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Awesome, thank you. Does this then change the metadata for future episodes in a series? Or do you have to edit every one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Not sure about metadata and Live TV really. Also hardly ever record actual live TV. NPVR still gets info / descriptions about episodes as usual. The pictures you add depend on the name you give it in the NPVR directory above. So if you add a picture(s) for a particular program it won't add it for variations, like specials, or thing like Masterchef US vs Masterchef AU or whatever its called. So if you've added a picture for a program its shown for that series. Sorry, beginning to ramble a bit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Thanks, I'll give it a go. It would be great to at least have this option in Emby, since even with the chance or wrong matches, being able to edit them in Emby would be a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Ok so this looks pretty straight forward. Do you have a good .xml editor you use, or do you just use Notepad++ or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just use Notepad++. No idea whether it qualifies as one of the good ones. Thats pretty much the only thing I use ++ for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Thanks, I'll give it a go. It would be great to at least have this option in Emby, since even with the chance or wrong matches, being able to edit them in Emby would be a lot easier. I did try this https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/53454-tv-guide-images/ but it didn't get very far. Also, I think Luke said Emby used to get images for live TV stuff, but without the imdb/tvdb id it was too hit and miss. Would be nice if it came back but was optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I did try this https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/53454-tv-guide-images/ but it didn't get very far. Also, I think Luke said Emby used to get images for live TV stuff, but without the imdb/tvdb id it was too hit and miss. Would be nice if it came back but was optional. Yeah optional would be better than nothing I think. It's probably more accurate than NPVR anyway, and easier to edit. Either that or a more friendly interface when there are no images. Is it possible to take another look @@Luke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36888 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I would just find a source for xmltv data, why not zap2xml? I don't want to revisit this, sorry, lots of issues here that I don't really want to have to troubleshoot: Incorrect matching, leading to unexpected guide data Incorrect matching leading to recordings saved with unexpected images. The amount of time required to query the internet providers for every single entry in the guide, and dealing with complaints over that. In fact if you look find a topic created by i think "Scott D" or "Scott310", next pvr incorrectly matched a movie to an adult title on moviedb leading to an inappropriate looking display. (And naturally initially blamed on Emby). I'm not blaming next pvr, the same could happen to us if we started doing this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) No worries, thanks Luke. That's fair enough. I'll have a look at other options. It's a shame that IceTV is so expensive since I think that would work well (It's nearly the same price Netflix). Edit: Looks like zap2xml doesn't work in Australia. Edited January 17, 2018 by swhitmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Ok, after a bit more digging IceTV offer just their XMLTV feed from $4/m. I guess that's not too bad. I'll test it out for a month and see how it goes. I was able to get it setup straight away which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Ok, after a bit more digging IceTV offer just their XMLTV feed from $4/m. I guess that's not too bad. I'll test it out for a month and see how it goes. I was able to get it setup straight away which is good. Does that 4$ thing give any TV posters / thumbs ? Probably doesn't work in NZ anyway bit still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessClevage 173 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Does that 4$ thing give any TV posters / thumbs ? Probably doesn't work in NZ anyway bit still...Yes it does and for tv shows that don’t have images they use a clean looking text image, I think I got my subscription for $3 and I hate on going fee but this is worth it to get a cleaner more full looking live tv section instead of those horrible pastel tiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swhitmore 781 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yes it does and for tv shows that don’t have images they use a clean looking text image, I think I got my subscription for $3 and I hate on going fee but this is worth it to get a cleaner more full looking live tv section instead of those horrible pastel tiles Oh, how did you get it for $3? Yeah, the images are nice, but I do wish they had more. Even some few common shows are missing. The colour tiles are gone now, I noticed that was a recent change. I like the transparent icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Far as I can see not in NZ anyway. Oh well, should I go back to the NPVR plug-in, hmmm, stick with the Hauppauge for a bit - anyone know of a good decision making program... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrbee99 1544 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Oh, how did you get it for $3? Yeah, the images are nice, but I do wish they had more. Even some few common shows are missing. The colour tiles are gone now, I noticed that was a recent change. I like the transparent icons. Updated to 70.1 and coloured tiles are back again. Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36888 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Don't you remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36888 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I do think our default colors though are a little strong and need to be adjusted individually for each of the themes, so i will say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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