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#201 Jdiesel ONLINE  

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:34 PM

Honest question, what does Apple TV do better than the new Shield TV? As a whole, not specific to Emby.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:38 PM

Honest question, what does Apple TV do better than the new Shield TV? As a whole, not specific to Emby.

 

 

1. HDR to SDR tonemap (not device itself, done by Plex and Infuse player)

2. Apple Music

3. iTunes content

4. iPhone Photo Gallery

 

I have an Nvidia Shield and an Apple TV 4k in my bedroom using a non HDR TV. When I play HDR content in my Apple TV looks like in an HDR display.


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:41 PM

So essentially the Apple services are what interest you

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:46 PM

So essentially the Apple services are what interest you

 

 

I can switch to Tidal (now I use both using Tidal trial). Some day Apple TV app may be available on Android TV, now it's available on Fire TV and I can cast my photos to Nvidia Shield chromecast.

 

I just need HDR to SDR tone map.


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 02:49 PM

Ah, I forgot to mention the user interface. I like the Apple TV user interface more. But this is personal and not objective.



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Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:02 PM

I'm waiting for a hdr to sdr solution too. For both direct play on my Shield TV and for transcoding to other off network devices. Until both both of those are possible I will continue keeping a 1080p SDR version and a 4K HDR version of my movies.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 05:53 PM

I'm waiting for a hdr to sdr solution too. For both direct play on my Shield TV and for transcoding to other off network devices. Until both both of those are possible I will continue keeping a 1080p SDR version and a 4K HDR version of my movies.

 

A quite expensive solution, however! I do that only for selected movies knowing that the 4K HDR media will be consumed locally exclusively or when the network bandwidth allows direct play. So, I don’t think that HDR to SDR tone mapping is so important in the near future unless you have SDR-only TV which I think will vanish in the coming years.


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 05:56 PM

Honest question, what does Apple TV do better than the new Shield TV? As a whole, not specific to Emby.

The ATV has a bigger storage capacity and Dolby Vision; Nvidia Shield 2019 has Dolby Vision capability but seems to not working properly according to reports in the forums.



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Posted 01 December 2019 - 06:16 PM

A quite expensive solution, however! I do that only for selected movies only knowing that the 4K HDR media will be consumed locally only or when the network bandwidth allows direct play. So, I don’t think that HDR to SDR tone mapping is so important in the near future unless you have SDR-only TV which I think will vanish in the coming years.

 

Small televisions for bedrooms, let say 32" 4k HDR, today are hard to find. If I can tone map HDR to SDR, I don't need a 32" 4K HDR TV for my bedroom. I don't want to keep both versions, 1080p and 4K. Maybe in a near future all new tvs will be 4K HDR, even small ones.

 

In this aspect both Plex and Infuse fit my needs.


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Posted 01 December 2019 - 06:36 PM

Small televisions for bedrooms, let say 32" 4k HDR, today are hard to find. If I can tone map HDR to SDR, I don't need a 32" 4K HDR TV for my bedroom. I don't want to keep both versions, 1080p and 4K. Maybe in a near future all new tvs will be 4K HDR, even small ones.

 

In this aspect both Plex and Infuse fit my needs.

 

True, small TVs are usually not HDR but I’m sure they will come; in the mean time you can get a bigger bedroom :D


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Posted 02 December 2019 - 04:30 AM

True, small TVs are usually not HDR but I’m sure they will come; in the mean time you can get a bigger bedroom :D

There is room for a 40" TV. Sooner or later there will be more 40" 4K HDR TVs :D . There are some but not many to choose from.


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Posted 03 December 2019 - 10:18 AM

It's still annoying that Emby on the Apple TV has an utter unusuable Live TV Guide.. really hoping for a new Guide soon, I prefer the Apple TV client except for the LiveTV..



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Posted 07 December 2019 - 01:10 AM

I have an Apple TV 4k and I did try the Emby app on it.  I'm having two issues with the app for the Apple TV 4k.  

 

1.  Even if I disable play default audio tracks, the best audio track of the MP4 file does not get selected automatically.  For example in an MP4 file that has AAC (stereo) and Dolby Digital 5.1 audio tracks, it ignores the Dolby Digital 5.1 track and still automatically plays the AAC (stereo) track.  

 

2.  The Match Frame Rate feature of the Apple TV 4k does not work with this app.



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Posted 07 December 2019 - 09:55 AM

Hi.  Have you checked out the default audio settings?

 

We never choose an audio track based on its format as we have no idea what the content of the track is.  We look at the language, your default settings, and the default indicator on the tracks themselves.



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Posted 07 December 2019 - 08:41 PM

If a movie has the stereo track flagged as the default audio track but also has another audio track that is Dolby Digital 5.1 embedded in the file, turning off play default audio tracks in the app's audio settings has no effect, and I must manually select the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track if I want to play the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track instead of the default stereo audio track.  I thought turning off this setting would make it so that it would select the audio track with the better audio format automatically during playback.  If it's not suppose to do that then what does turning off that setting suppose to do?  Also many of my MP4 files have both a stereo (AAC) and a Dolby Digital 5.1 audio track, and the stereo audio track is the one that is flagged as default in those files, but that's not an Emby Theater issue, that's just the way the file was put together.


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Posted Yesterday, 03:46 AM

If "Play default track" is enabled, regardless of the default language, the default track is played, otherwise the track is chosen according to the default language. I don't know what criteria are used to select the track if there are several tracks with the same language, I think it plays with the first one available.


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