Luke 37060 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Currently the only way you can update channel details from a new m3u is to reset up every single series recording. It would greatly improve the user friendliness of Emby if this could be changed. But only if the file name changes, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 there has to be a way of making channels unique per tuner, so that is why it is based on the combination of channel id + m3u url. this allows you to remove and recreate the tuner setup and still allow you to keep your recording relationships. i could instead base this on the emby tuner id created when you setup your m3u. this would allow the m3u url to change, but then if you ever remove and recreate your tuner, all your relationships will be lost. and what do a lot of people do the moment they run into a problem, they remove things and set them back up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I'm sure @@Spaceboy will correct me, but it's not a case of the m3u url changing, but the contents that the url contains. My IPTV m3u url hasn't changed since I've been using IPTV, but certain channels names have, although the channel number/order has remained the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I'm sure @@Spaceboy will correct me, but it's not a case of the m3u url changing, but the contents that the url contains. My IPTV m3u url hasn't changed since I've been using IPTV, but certain channels names have, although the channel number/order has remained the same. yea those things are all fine to change - channel names, order, even individual channel urls. it's the m3u url itself along with the tvg-id that are important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 yea those things are all fine to change - channel names, order, even individual channel urls. it's the m3u url itself along with the tvg-id that are important. What about if you use an m3u file, should it behave the same way? Not all IPTV m3u url content have the tvg-id in, so to be able to sort the channels by number correctly, you have to add it. If something changes within that m3u file, such as channel name, should Emby still work with it and not lose Series Recordings already set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 What about if you use an m3u file, should it behave the same way? Not all IPTV m3u url content have the tvg-id in, so to be able to sort the channels by number correctly, you have to add it. If something changes within that m3u file, such as channel name, should Emby still work with it and not lose Series Recordings already set up? Url/File same rules. If there is no "tvg-id" or "channel-id", then the id is generated using the m3u url, so yes, this would be sensitive towards change and loss of relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) Not all IPTV m3u url content have the tvg-id in, so to be able to sort the channels by number correctly, you have to add it. Lets not confuse tvg-id with channel-id. tvg-id is for guide mapping. channel-id for channel number. Krs Mark Edited October 12, 2017 by maegibbons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 @@Luke So are you saying that CURRENTLY if we change JUST the channel description in the m3u that that will be re-read by Emby and used? I dont think we are seeing that. If it IS what you are saying then I will test it out specifically Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I'm saying you won't lose series recordings which is what we're discussing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 -Or get Emby to reflect all changes within an identically named and located m3u We have discussed, and it is outlined above, that for iptv the content of the m3u should dictate everything else. That Emby does not do that is the issue Thats not quite correct. It is POINTLESS changing the contents of an m3u IF emby does not change its internal metadata when re-reading it. This topic is about changing the contents of an m3u and whether those changes will be read by emby AND if those changes will loose series recordings. From my perspective this Topic covers BOTH things as highlighted by @@Spaceboy in the quoted post. Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Luke 37060 Posted October 13, 2017 Solution Share Posted October 13, 2017 I think having Emby reflect all of the changes from the m3u is fine and something that I will look at, thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Lets not confuse tvg-id with channel-id. tvg-id is for guide mapping. channel-id for channel number. Apologies, I always get those mixed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 These changes are in 3.2.33.7+. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 These changes are in 3.2.33.7+. thanks. What changes have been made please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 The changes discussed in post #61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2493 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 The changes discussed in post #61. luke please can you confirm: does the m3u need to be identically named and located for this to work or is there flexibility there too? i can work within either set of parameters, i just need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I believe the file name (and path??) has to be the same name otherwise it is a NEW tuner effectively. Luke will no doubt confirm. Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2493 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 so this should allow me to point it at the url for the m3u, emby should receive the daily / weekly updates to channel names and all series recordings will be retained. downside is the guide will be flooded with the full channel list and i dont think i can use schedules direct epg because the tvgid's will not match. its that versus periodic manual download of m3u, manual processing through the access db and loading into emby. is that a fair summary of the current position until we get live tv channel management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 As I understand it - yes. Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6771 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 so this should allow me to point it at the url for the m3u, emby should receive the daily / weekly updates to channel names and all series recordings will be retained. downside is the guide will be flooded with the full channel list and i dont think i can use schedules direct epg because the tvgid's will not match. It's a shame, as LIVE CHANNELS and the SMART IPTV apps read the M3U URL and name, identify and group the channels correctly and consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2493 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 It's a shame, as LIVE CHANNELS and the SMART IPTV apps read the M3U URL and name, identify and group the channels correctly and consistently. well i think we should have all that bar the channel grouping now. time to test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 It's a shame, as LIVE CHANNELS and the SMART IPTV apps read the M3U URL and name, identify and group the channels correctly and consistently. And so can we. No problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 so this should allow me to point it at the url for the m3u, emby should receive the daily / weekly updates to channel names and all series recordings will be retained. downside is the guide will be flooded with the full channel list and i dont think i can use schedules direct epg because the tvgid's will not match. its that versus periodic manual download of m3u, manual processing through the access db and loading into emby. is that a fair summary of the current position until we get live tv channel management? Yes that sounds correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maegibbons 1267 Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 And so can we. No problem at all. Not quite.... There is no grouping in Emby...... Yet.... But we know you will work on it ..... Sometime. Krs Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2493 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Yes that sounds correct. thanks, a step forwards. unfortunately it seems the iptv provider only makes 1 day of epg available. i saw someone else posting about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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