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#21 Tolriq OFFLINE  

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:44 AM

Stability can't improve without full report when someone have issue ;)

Please see https://yatse.tv/red...ase/articles/20 for how to gather logs and opening a proper issue. (Last part only covers Kodi currently but can be skipped unless asked in the issue).

1) Is planned but Emby is quite different from others in the way that there's no user rating, just a favorite thing. When Kodi have a full 0-10 rating :( Ui is not ready for such drastic differences.

2) All is here, there's play random nearly everywhere and a random button in now playing to randomize the current queue. What is missing ?

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:52 AM

Well there is shuffle, but the playlist is not randomized. Random play also creates an orderly playlist. The playlist is not randomized or shuffled after pressing on "play random all". I was more asking  a way to randomize the actual playlist.

​As far as the rating goes, I think even having favorite would be nice.

​One more thing, not sure if this is possible with the API. it would be nice what I play in Yatse is also listed under "recently played" in the Emby Web app. I am not seeing the played songs there.

​thanks


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:04 PM

Please open issues at web site as asked :)

I do not understand your random shuffle issue. When in shuffle mode in Yatse, the playlist does not change it's order, but the songs are played randomly without duplicates. Don't know what you want more.

Yatse properly report to Emby what it plays so don't really know what you expect more.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:12 PM

"I do not understand your random shuffle issue. When in shuffle mode in Yatse, the playlist does not change it's order, but the songs are played randomly without duplicates. Don't know what you want more."

I asked for a "randomized playlist" or "randomizing the playlist" in which the songs are randomly ordered and shown  in the playlist, not shuffle play. They are not the same thing. You are a bit passive aggressive in this regard. I nicely asked for couple features, and I even gave positive review. Implementing any feature request or not implementing them is your business. I as a user reported what I saw as missing, shall I feel guilty about it?

​How am I supposed to know if Yatse reports to Emby properly as long as the played songs are not shown in Emby as recently played, which is what I am trying to figure out so that I can ask to the Emby devs.

​take it easy.



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:19 PM

Well I'm not native English speaker, I did ask a few times to explain why it's different.

So as I said I'm sorry but I still have no idea about what you want and why it's different from what is actually done.

1) Shuffle is random just not displayed in the random order.
2) Play random is randomize the data and display the playlist in that order.

Both are present, so I'll ask again nicely: What is missing?

As obviously if I do not understand the need there's no way I can implement anything......


For the rest I keep asking you to open issues with logs, that you seems to be reluctant to do and expect me some miracle to give answer on things I just can't.
I'm not mentalist to know what happens on your device / Emby. Like when you say I had crash, it's just way to generic to be of any use for me.

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 12:01 AM

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​Shuffle is random. It picks a random one from the list and plays that song that is all fine, however a randomized playlist is not the same thing as shuffle playlist. The shuffler does not care about the content (though some shuffles try to stay wihin the theme), a randomizer can have limitations based on certain parameters like not repeating the same song, picking only one song from each album in the processing etc.

 

First of all a randomized playlist will show you what is coming up next since you can see the next song in the list as long as the shuffle mode is disabled for a randomized playlist. Also you have a chance to reorder a randomized playlist. On the otherhand it is hard to create a randomized playlist by hand because that would be tedious and it still would not be as random as an application picking songs from a database of thousands of songs.

 

Look, I love your app, it is great and I believe that it provides much better "music" listening experience than the Emby app. The Emby app cant even create a proper playlist from the database, the user has to pick stuff manually. It is ok for listening your library one album at a time and offers limited discovery from the music library. I am not a fan of it myself and that is why Yatse offers much better music experience with Emby.

​Basically it would be nice if the user can create a truely randomized playlist with some kind of number limitation. Lets say that  the user is able to create a  truely random 100 item playlist from the whole database which Yatse picks those items properly from the list depending on the number of items in the playlist and the number of songs ratio. As you can see this would not work with shuffle idea because the shuffler would know or care what is in the playlist. You can shuffle the next song in an album (like Emby does), however a randomized playlist will require certain parameters to create the playlist, once done there is no need for any kind of shuffle anymore.

​​thanks


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Posted 30 October 2017 - 04:20 AM

Well Yatse does already support that as I tried to explain quite a few time :)

In all screen there's a play button. Pressing that play button then play all random will play what is on screen in a random order.
But without being shuffled, so you know what is coming next as the playlist is in the correct order.

As a side note, shuffle mode is smart, it takes random items in the playlist but without playing 2 times the same, meaning if you play an album in random order you are assured to listen to all songs before it start playing an already listened song.

So both needs are covered.

Now back to play all random.
Yatse supports smart filters that allow you to create virtually any list of any songs / albums / artists based on any filter you want.

You can filter all songs with rating > 5 and year between 2000 and 2010 and genre is Z and artist is not XXX.

Then press play all random and voila you have exactly what you asked for :)

For the moment there's no number limit, but in the end limits are not that important, more songs than wanted will still play the number of songs you wanted to ear ;)

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:46 PM

Yatse 8.0.0 is now out

* Important: Android 4.0.x is no more supported. Yatse now have API 16 (Jelly Bean) as a minimal requirement.
* Added: Complete new internal audio player. (Based on Exoplayer)
* Added: Internal audio player now support gapless playback for compatible media.
* Added: Complete Android Auto support.
* Changed: Playlist tabs in file view are now entries in the normal files list.
* Updated: Updated Hungarian translation thanks to AcCEsS.
* Fixed: Many internal changes for always more stability and better future.
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Posted 20 November 2017 - 11:56 AM

Any chance at adding the capability to launch Emby Theater to the yatze remote?  I can cast to the server but this brings up the web app if I am correct, and i greatly prefer emby theater or emby for WMC.  Perhaps you could add or point me to a method of sending command line input to a given machine so that I might also be able to launch emby for WMC as well.  



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:11 PM

Well Yatse have no way to start those remotely.

Maybe Emby does start an UPnP renderer and then start the web server but it's not something I have control over.

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 04:35 PM

I do not post all updates here but Yatse is monthly updated :)

Yatse 8.1.6 is published

* Changed: Applied new better internals to Addons / PVR and Files part of the application.
* Added: Plex and Emby wizards now properly auto detect HTTPS mode and no longer require advanced settings edition.
* Added: Sort by track number for Music Videos.
* Fixed: Editing Custom Commands.
* Fixed: Some issues with action bar title sometimes showing up when it should not.
* Fixed: Artist name missing in now playing playlist.
* Fixed: Remapped button left / right of volume auto repeat being activated.
* Fixed: Workaround for one more JSON Kodi bug: Returning random strings for now playing items durations from RSS (Trac:17753 if anyone care at Kodi team ;)).
* Fixed: Some reported issues and tons of optimizations.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 06:41 AM

Hi Tolriq

 

I use Yatse (Pro) for a long time with Kodi.

Since one year I use Emby as media server (Win10).

 

AFAIK Yatse can be used with Kodi 18 (I use Kodi 18 vor some months).

 

But can it be used, if I use Kodi with EmbyCon Addon instead of "Emby for Kodi" Addon?

With EmbyCon Kodi is not using a sql database, so I think Yatse can not be used for Kodi, if used together with EmbyCon Addon, or am I wrong?

 

Yatse only finds most of my series, but not the last (newest) ones, so I think it could be old data, that is found.

Movies and music will not be found and stays at "0".

 

Before I fumble around for a while longer, can you say me, if I'm right?

 

Did you test yatse together with EmbyCon Addon?

 

Thanks.


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Posted 17 February 2018 - 07:05 AM

Well without logs I can't tell anything.

Except that Yatse fully support every single Kodi version including latest alphas.

I don't know what those addons do inside Kodi, but Yatse offers native Emby support so you can stream from Emby to Kodi without any addon inside Kodi.

But latest Kodi 18 have some major bugs still not fixed so it may not work in every cases.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:01 AM

Yes, I know, that Yatse support Emby natively and I use that too.

But I use Kodi as Clien at home and Yatse to control Kodi, regardless that Kodi uses Emby as server.

 

But since EmbyCon not uses the internal Kodi database (like "Emby for Kodi" does) and display and play media items on the Emby server directly, I am afraid, that Yatse can't get any media infos from Kodi, since Kodi hasn't them in it's own database.

 

Perhaps @null_pointer can say something about this?
 



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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:07 AM

But what is your goal ? :)

Yatse can connect to Emby natively and play on your Kodi regardless of any addons installed on your Kodi. Just select Emby as source and Kodi as player.

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 09:22 AM

That's indeed a good tip! :)



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:06 PM

Can it be configure to manage users!



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:15 PM

Not sure about what you are talking about but Yatse does not anything to configure Emby servers remotely.

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Posted 23 March 2018 - 04:27 PM

Yatse 8.2.5 is now out with Free trials so anyone can test Emby integration :)

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Posted 16 May 2018 - 10:21 AM

Any plans to add support for at least music playlists?  







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