mediacowboy 438 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) I don't have one at this time but wanted to get ideas of what to look for and what to avoid. Look forward to seeing and hearing you ideas.Update 1:As you can see I started this post to see what others had and ended up change it to match the thread decision. I plan to keep this up to date as I go and even post pictures and information along the way. What I am planning to achieve can be found in this post. Update 2: As this thread has progressed I have already bought some of the main hardware and will keep what parts have been ordered. I will keep that up to date as the build and swap progress over time. With the help from others I have also decided to ditch the stock cpu cooler and am thing about Corsair H60. Parts order: Case - SilverStone DS380B Raid Card - LSI 9211-8i (Already flashed to IT) Cable's - .5M SFF-8087 to 4 Sata, Silverstone PP05-E OS Drive - OCZ Vector 150 240GB (Already had from upgrading the Current server for games.) Parts Left to order: Motherboard - Asrock H170M-ITX/DL CPU - Intel i5-6500 Memory - G.Skill Aegis 32GB DDR4 2133 OS - Windows 10 Pro (Still undecide as I will use Drive Bender instead of Stroage Spaces so may go windows 7) CPU Cooler - Corsair H60 Powersupply - SilverStone ST45SF-G Hard Drives - 4 x Seagate IronWolf 8TB, 2 x Seagate ST8000AS0002 Video Card - GTX 1060 or AMD RX 480 (Not sure which yet have time to decide as it will be the last thing I upgraded) Cables - SFF-8087 to 4 Sata, Edited January 2, 2017 by mediacowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 That will depend on the type games you want to play and you over all max spending amount You did say if want Home Build or Pre-Build OEM like Dell or HP ?. Case: There are min out there this is the first thing you need start with as it plays key role in which hardware parts you need in order for everything to work The key thing is what GPU do you want as some video can be very long as much as 13"in long Power Supply: Always buy a Top Notch model like Corsair, EVGA, SeaSonic with 80 Certified this is life blood of your system 550 to 750 watts is all need more then one GPU go up to 850 watt CPU: The Idea sweet spot system is to start with is Intel i5 6500 6th CPU in LGA 1151 or could go all out with i7 in 6th or 7th gen core $$$ AMD doesn't have anything right now other then FX Line so 8370 is best beat fro now but that may all change with new upcoming Ryzen CPU you have wait a bit longer about 3 to 6 mos. CPU Cooler: I like Water Cooler by Corsair there are other like EK-XLC Predator which is Xpandable Liquid Cooling with quick disconnects (QDCs) so add water cooler to your GPU easy but there always out stock, System Memory: DDR4 2133Mhz for Intel is fastest possible speed you can get with out going to OC mode (Overclock) DDR3 1866Mhz for AMD is fastest possible speed you can get with out going to OC mode (Overclock) My fav are by G.Skill repeated word Motherboard: This will very as there lot option idea lee with intel you want top notch Z170 Chipset for Intel CPU or 990FX for AMD CPU by ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI, ASRock, EVGA and SuperMicro Next you need know make your up your mind Case first then forum factor size can be Full ATX, Micro ATX and Mini ITX that what have match to the case If can try get it with a Realtek ALC1150 Sound Device on board and for love god stay away from Creative Sound Core 3D chip they are useless if you wish to run Linux GPU: This will very all depend on the Games you wish play Idea ones right now are GTX 1060 (Any brand) or AMD RX 480 (XFX Radeon GTR RX) or Fury X with water cooler going really cheap But If you got cash to burn with out braking the bank then GTX 1070 is next option Do keep mind that AMD is coming out with new card know as Vega GPU with the latest HBM2 this year with in the next few months which should be a Pocket Rocket we all are hoping it will be. Storage: Your Boot drive should be at lease SSD 256GB Samsung I keep all Games on 2nd Hard drive that at lease Fast 7200 RPM or you could go for very large SSD 1TB or more TB that will help speed up load time, all so it good idea to keep a reg old school drive to back up to that way you can restore your game and other data as App like Steam allow you to back each game and restore them and there are other way to just by copying xyz folder same apply with Origin and Uplay and saving your game play data that usually in my Documents folder. OS: Windows 10 is ok CDRom: Makes no diff that just up to you but I get a Blu-ray Burner There a few little misc thing like sata cables, fans and thing that may need I hope this help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Thank you for this information. I mainly play Civilization 5, Command and Conquer (All of them), and Just started Battle Field 1. My plan is to take my current server and reuse it for a gaming rig. Case: Antec Nineteen Hundred Motherboard: Asus Crosshair V Forumla-Z CPU: AMD FX-8350 Memory: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR3 1600 OS: Windows 7 Pro OS Drive: SanDisk Ultra II 480 GB CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8 GTS Videocard: NVIDIA GeForce GT 720 Powersupply: SilverStone ST75f-GS Media Drives: 5 x Seagate ST4000DM000 2 x Seagate ST8000AS0002 Other Drives: Seagte ST4000DM00 (Used for converting and ripping) Western Digital WD20 EARX-00PASB0 (used for personal files) LG HT-DT-ST Bluray reader Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D I know that I will need to replace the Video card. With the new server build I plan to get another Seagate ST8000AS0002 and put in the current system and pull out a couple of the ST4000DM000. I will use these 3-4 ST8000AS002 for a dev server and in house back up for media. New server build is going to be the following, Case: SilverStone DS380B Motherboard: Asrock H170M-ITX/DL CPU: Intel i5-6500 Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32GB DDR4 2133 OS: Windows 10 Pro OS Drive: OCZ Vector 150 240GB CPU Cooler: Stock Videocard: On Board Powersupply: SilverStone ST45SF-G Media Drives: 4 x Seagate IronWolf 8TB (With the option for 4 more in the future) I will use the on board sata for the OS and maybe a cache drive. I will also have a Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 connected to the PCI-Express slot with 2 SSF-8087 to Latching SATA to the HotSwap Backplane of the Case for the hard drives. So If I play my cards right what would I need to do to transfer the current server to a gaming rig. Edited December 31, 2016 by mediacowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 You do just fine with that current server spec as a gaming system and just replace the Video card with what I recommend for just Battle Field 1 a GTX 1060 or AMD RX 480 will make all different in world with game play as the GT 720 is to slow as I'm sure those other don't run well. I would not recommend using a stock intel cooler in that small of case beside the stock cooler has very poor cooling as soon as you get any kind load on it as I sure you want to make used of Quick Sync Video which I'm guesting that your going for I would recommend install a Corsair H50, H55 or H60 in place for not only better CPU cooling and one less fan but all so to free up air flow as it has room for 120MM at back of the case Look here https://themodzoo.com/2015/08/silverstone-ds380-small-form-factor-chassis-review/4/ scroll down you see the water cooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) I hadn't thought about the load of quick sync needing better cooling. Thank you for that information. Most of my stuff direct plays as it stands now but we do watch live TV and stream out of the house which does require some transcoding. After looking at the manual some more I wonder if the sas/sata card will fit and still allow all 8 bays Also thank you for the video card recommendations. Edited January 1, 2017 by mediacowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think I found a card that will do what I want. It is more than what I wanted to pay but for compact and convince it makes sense. Highpoint Rocketraid 2720sgl. Anyone on here have experience with just passing the hard drives through this and letting windows handle the drives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 If there will there a way LoL https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/342335-ds380b-nas-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 I guess so. I don't know that I am that gifted to make something like that work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Did you see Norco ITX-S8 case and with SeaSonic SS-400L1U which will work with that Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 Edited January 1, 2017 by SHSPVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 After looking at that build more it actually looks like something I may be able to pull off. I already order the ds380 case. So I will look at it in more detail when it gets in. I also found expansion cables to mount it that same way without making anything. Thanks @@SHSPVR for all your input. Other then the case I am still open for ideas. I really want to stay with Intel for quick sync to help with transcoding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can I get the topic changed to "Future build and gaming system rebuild"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can I get the topic changed to "Future build and gaming system rebuild"? No not here some forum do allow for it just not here so you have to ask the Forum Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 After looking at that build more it actually looks like something I may be able to pull off. I already order the ds380 case. So I will look at it in more detail when it gets in. I also found expansion cables to mount it that same way without making anything. Thanks @@SHSPVR for all your input. Other then the case I am still open for ideas. I really want to stay with Intel for quick sync to help with transcoding. Cool post the detail here on that expansion cables I'm glad I was able to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Cool post the detail here on that expansion cables I'm glad I was able to help http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812183015 This is just one example of the the cables I was talking about. And maybe these to make the card stand off the hard drive enclosure or something like it? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998139&cm_re=motherboard_standoff_screws-_-11-998-139-_-Product Edited January 2, 2017 by mediacowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Can I get the topic changed to "Future build and gaming system rebuild"? Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Done Thank you @@Happy2Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 @@mediacowboy Can you check if you can edit title, select edit your first post and select Full Editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 @@mediacowboy Can you check if you can edit title, select edit your first post and select Full Editor. No I can not edit the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812183015 This is just one example of the the cables I was talking about. And maybe these to make the card stand off the hard drive enclosure or something like it? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998139&cm_re=motherboard_standoff_screws-_-11-998-139-_-Product That way to short you need this 3M 50CM ver in order to mount in same place as in link that I post with it attach to the bay cage http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/8KC3-0726-0500/3M12026-ND/3641403?curr=usd&WT.z_cid=ref_octopart_dkc_buynow&site=us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenkethBoy 2063 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I think I found a card that will do what I want. It is more than what I wanted to pay but for compact and convince it makes sense. Highpoint Rocketraid 2720sgl. Anyone on here have experience with just passing the hard drives through this and letting windows handle the drives? If you intend to use the card in win 10 - run for the hills - had months of trouble with my new server with these cards - driver/machine lock ups/random reboots/drives not recognised in the middle of the night with the worlds most annoying and loud buzzer. work in linux (xpenology ok though) i had three - sold on ebay or rma'd replaced with LSI 9211-8i - cheaper and better card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) If you intend to use the card in win 10 - run for the hills - had months of trouble with my new server with these cards - driver/machine lock ups/random reboots/drives not recognised in the middle of the night with the worlds most annoying and loud buzzer. work in linux (xpenology ok though) i had three - sold on ebay or rma'd replaced with LSI 9211-8i - cheaper and better card I am thinking of going the LSI 9211-8i route. And building it similar to how they did it in this build. Using motherboard standoff's instead of making something. What do you think about the standoff's. Edited January 2, 2017 by mediacowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'm going to be honest this will be the first time I have ever done any custom mods on a build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHSPVR 119 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 The SFF-8087 cable, one is 0.50m or 19in long I can see part number one it and shorter one is most like lee a 0.25m or 10in long so that help there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest asrequested Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you use a SAS card and are connecting to SATA ports, make sure you get forward breakout cables. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you use a SAS card and are connecting to SATA ports, make sure you get forward breakout cables. https://www.startech.com/Cables/Drive/SAS/50cm-Serial-Attached-SCSI-SAS-Cable-SFF-8087-to-4x-Latching-SATA~SAS8087S450 This is one of the cables I believe I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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