jmangan 11 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Sorry if I'm not in the right place for this. I couldn't see the obvious topic area. Please move, if necessary. I've been trying to sort out some TV boxsets and Battlestar Galactica is a good example. First, following the naming information I put everything 'not an episode' in 'Season 0' specials. That made a bit of a mess. I looked through several forum posts and saw reference to theTVDB.com as a good source of information. That made it clear that specials are not 'extras' as such. I am assuming that Emby follows that convention. So, I re-sorted with Specials only in 'Season 0' and created 'extras' folders in each Season folder as per the Movies. I can now see Deleted Scenes, etc. but they just get mixed up with the Episodes. Is there a way to have them in an 'Extras' folder as with the Movies? If there is could it be added to the naming information on the appropriate page? Sorry if I've missed the clear instructions somewhere; I did search before posting. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Hi, there is currently no convention for this so best bet for right now is to use Season 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 Luke, the problem with that is selecting non-conflicting episode numbers and everything gets marked as 'Special' making it difficult to separate out different items from different seasons - particularly for 5,6 or more season programmes. Is there likely to be a convention in the forseeable future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It's always a possibility for the future but what you can do for now is name them however you like, with or without episode numbers, and then just lock their metadata using the editor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 I haven't looked at metadata - still new this - I'll have a look. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Sorry, another question. I've just realised that I created a 'Special Features' folder for another TV show, HHGTTG, as a sub-folder within its season and that shows up as a separate folder next to the Season. When I tried the same thing with Battlestar it either doesn't show the folder or contents OR just shows the episodes and contents all mixed together. I believe I created the sub-folders in the same way so I don't understand why the behaviour should be different. Is there a way I can get the 'Special Features' folders for Battlestar to show in the same way? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsquirrel 741 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Having dealt with the same thing, just manipulate the season zero episode numbers. Specials that exist on TVDB you can use their episode numbers. For all the other crap you want to keep, set the episode numbers up above 100. So, using hour examples, here are three different special episodes, both in the season 0 folder. Battlestar Galactica (2003) S00E01 Battlestar Galactica the Miniseries (1).mkv. -- this one exists in TVDB and matches their naming Battlestar Galactica (2003) S00E101 Season 1 Behind the Scenes.mkv. -- this title is made up as I don't have BG specials like this saved from my discs Battlestar Galactica (2003) S00E201 Season 2 Cast Interview.mkv. -- also made up but you bet the idea Season one specials in the 100s, season 2 in the 200s, etc. Works for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 That's certainly a workable solution and I may have to resort to it but I would still like to know why one series, HHGTTG, will show a 'Special Features' folder separately and another, BSG, won't. I didn't do anything different so I don't understand why the folders are treated differently. Is it one 'Special Features' per Emby installation, one per series or is something else going on? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8139 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 Would have to do some testing but "Special Features" folder shouldn't work at all, that is why Luke said "Season 0". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 actually you should be able to do any folder name you want, it's just that season 0 is our recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'm still confused . . . My 'working' Special Features' above is a sub-folder in the 'Season 1' folder. That doesn't work with BSG. I would still like to know why. So, presumably you can only have one 'Season 0'/'Special Features'/'Whatever' folder per series no matter where you put it? I will try it out but any ideas what would/should happen if you put 'Season 1', 'Season 2', etc sub-folders in the 'Season 0'/'Specials' folder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 No, the nested folders under seasons will just be flattened out. i meant that you can put whatever folder you want directly under the series folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Then why hasn't that happened with HHGTTG? The 'Special Features' folder is in the 'Season 1' folder but shows up separately as in the screen capture above. I would really like to replicate that behaviour on my other TV shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 You either have a Special Feature folder directly under the series folder, or somehow it's happening by accident and you're trying to rely on that unsupported behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Luke, that's what I have been saying. I have created a sub-folder in the HHGTTG folder and it appears as above. When I do the same with BSG it either doesn't appear at all or scatters the contents among the episodes. Is there any way to make the unsupported behaviour supported? Pleeeasee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8139 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) The 'Special Features' folder is in the 'Season 1' folder This creates a nesting issue and everything is displayed improperly. So you are saying this structure isn't working for more than one series? BSG -special features -season 1 -season 2 HHGTTG -special features -season 1 -season 2 Edited November 20, 2016 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8139 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 created 'extras' folders in each Season folder as per the Movies This can not work because they are not attached to a specific item like movies. This is why there is a display order in the metadata to tell Emby to play a special in a certain order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Happy2Play, No, these are not specials in the sense used by thetvdb.org, more extras: deleted scenes, outtakes, etc. I have: HHGTTG - Season 1 -Special Features which displays as above but the doesn't behave in the same way when I use the same structure for BSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funwithmedia 350 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I have some related questions... Please forgive my ignorance if these have already been answered above or elsewhere -- I'm having trouble understanding what's possible regarding this functionality currently. Is there anyway currently with Specials which are related to a specific Season or Episode to display them somehow adjacent, or connected to, the appropriate Season or Episode? For example, I tried setting "Airs before episode" to 1 for a Special that is related to Episode 1, but didn't see that impacting anything in the presentation of that Special feature (ie, I could still only access it via the Specials page). Similarly, if what I'm seeking is possible through the metadata settings (which is entirely possible--I assume I don't fully understand what they all do currently), is there any way to achieve this via filename (eg, S1E1.1 for a Special that is related to Episode 1 of Season 1)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmangan 11 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 There is a mechanism for what you want. If you visit 'thetvdb.com' and find your programme you will see all of the seasons plus specials. If you create a 'Season 0' folder in Emby and put your specials in there and label them according to the thetvdb.com, e.g. s00e01 then you will see them appear in the appropriate season when you browse the media. If you have items that are not listed as specials there doesn't appear to be an agreed standard as yet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funwithmedia 350 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Thanks for chiming in! So if a Special does not exist in thetvdb.com then is there no way to achieve this via Emby Metadata settings, or were you just indicating there's no filename-based way of achieving this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36881 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 You can put anything you want in your season 0 folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funwithmedia 350 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Yes, thank you -- I was aware of that much. What I'm wondering at this point is if there anyway currently with Specials which are related to a specific Season or Episode to display them somehow adjacent, or connected to, the appropriate Season or Episode (when they don't have any specials-data in TVDB)? Like are there metadata settings that can achieve this? And if so, can we use a certain filename structure to pre-fill those metadata settings so that things will display right (I interpret this part is currently not possible, but I'm much less clear on the metadata-only route)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14858 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Try editing the info for one of those specials and see if you see anything that might be related to that... (I'm not trying to be obtuse. I'm trying to discover why it wasn't obvious to you in the first place so we can improve) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8139 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) If the server knows they are specials you can tell it where to appear. Along with this setting "Display specials within seasons they aired in". Dashboard-Library-Display Example from metadata <airsbefore_episode>1</airsbefore_episode> <airsbefore_season>10</airsbefore_season> Edited January 23, 2017 by Happy2Play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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