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Fire TV App: 1.2.66a

 

I tried pausing live tv, but it appears to have been disabled. I reviewed the forum to see whether the reason was listed as well as the changelog, but didn't see any information. Reviewed the latest commits and saw a condition was added based on whether seek was available. Was this just a temporary fix or is this now the default behavior?

 

I found it very useful to pause live tv and used it frequently. 

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RedBaron164

I'm assuming that the change is a side effect of the app being updated in preparation for the changes coming down the pipe in regards to time shifting and other enhancements and that eventually this functionality will be restored once time shifting becomes an officially support feature.

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The problem is that pausing Live TV is very mis-leading if you cannot seek.  Were you able to seek in the stream after the pause?

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Not OP, but before the update I was able to pause while transcoding but was not able to seek while watching a live stream.

 

Does that mean you were able to seek a transcoded live stream?

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I can't recall whether I attempted to seek when resuming live tv after pausing and if it was able. My use case was to pause if I needed to step away momentarily and resume playing when I returned. I'm not sure how the system is built, but is it possible to have a toggle in the settings to enable a "transcode while paused" feature that would start transcoding when you paused live tv and on resume read the data from the transcoded stream until it was caught up to live tv then switch back to DP?

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Does that mean you were able to seek a transcoded live stream?

I was not able to seek. I was just pausing and resuming play of the live stream.

 

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I was not able to seek. I was just pausing and resuming play of the live stream.

 

Okay, that's what I thought.

 

The ability to pause the stream is problematic because 1) you cannot seek and 2) the progress is going to be wrong and there will be no evidence that you are behind real-time.  Additionally, if you were to pause while direct streaming from the device, you would simply lose the time during the pause.

 

All of these issues will get cleared up once we have true trick-play with the live TV streams.

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so what is the point of time shifting?

 

Time-shifting allows you to move from one period in time to another, as well as record a live broadcast for later viewing.

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Okay, that's what I thought.

 

The ability to pause the stream is problematic because 1) you cannot seek and 2) the progress is going to be wrong and there will be no evidence that you are behind real-time.  Additionally, if you were to pause while direct streaming from the device, you would simply lose the time during the pause.

 

All of these issues will get cleared up once we have true trick-play with the live TV streams.

 

 

Time-shifting allows you to move from one period in time to another, as well as record a live broadcast for later viewing.

 

Sorry am confused seems ebr is saying one thing and you another? Maybe just the term time-shifting. I thought all the work done in beta and now in release was to support the ability to pause live tv. and move around then in temp stream record?

 

We have been able to record TV for latter viewing for some time :) 

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so what is the point of time shifting?

 

I'm not sure exactly what you are asking here but we do have a bit of a nomenclature issue potentially.

 

"Time-shifting" actually refers to pretty much everything we do with Emby now.  It is about changing when you actually view content vs. when it was aired.

 

"Trick play" is the term used by most DVRs (I think coined by TiVo back in the day) that is the ability to pause, rew and ff live TV.

 

We have time-shifting now.  We are working on trick-play with the web app being the first to have it.

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