Ace of Space 2 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Issue description: If i try to Play a Movie on a remote site with limited bandwith in the Samsung app, the app try's to playback the movie as a transcodet stream. This results in a "Render Error Type 0". In my home network with direct playback, it will play without any problems.Steps to reproduce: Reduce the bandwith in the Samsung app to a value with is lower than the bitrate of the movie, to force the playback of an transcodet stream.My TV/HTS/BD Player model number: Samsung UE46F6470 117 cm (46 Zoll)My firmware version: 2117My Emby server version: Version 3.0.7200.0My current Emby Samsung client version: v2.1.3Supporting information to include logs and pictures where applicable: Video Codec H264 AVC Yes Profil High Leve l41 Auflösung 1920x816 Seitenverhältnis 2.35:1 Anamorph No Interlaced No Framerate 23.97602 Bitrate 17968 kbps Bit-Tiefe 8 bit Pixelformat yuv420p Ref Frames 5 NAL 4 Audio #1 Sprache ger Codec DCA Profil DTS Darstellung 5.1 Kanäle 6 ch Bitrate 768 kbps Sample-Rate 48000 Hz Bit-Tiefe 24 bit Voreinstellung Yes Title German DTS 5.1 @ 768 kbps Audio #2 Sprache eng Codec DCA Profil DTS Darstellung 5.1 Kanäle 6 ch Bitrate 1536 kbps Sample-Rate 48000 Hz Bit-Tiefe 24 bit Voreinstellung No Title English DTS 5.1 @ 1.536 kbps (core of DTS-MA) server-log.txt ffmpeg-transcode-5e19f951-9652-4772-9882-e3b36968015d.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Is DCA/DTS turned on in the settings for the F6470? Type 0 is usually an incapatible codec within the file and according to your users manual it doesn't support DCA http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/UE46F6470SSXZG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Space 2 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi, Video codec... sounds strange, because direct play of this file will work on the same TV. The "Render Error Type 0" comes only if the Server transcode the file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Well...I'm not sure the problem is actually DCA itself, just know what I see in your manual and what the error code is It's possible a firmware update added support for DCA too. I'll see if I can duplicate on my TV with a file with similar mediainfo What do you mean by remote site? Is it the same Emby server, but the file is just in the cloud vs local? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Space 2 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi, remote site means a location outside my local area network. I share my emby Server with some friends. And if i set the speedlimit in the samsung tv emby app to 6 MB per second, the app trys to play this file as transcodet stream. In this moment the "Render Type Error 0" appears. If i set the network speed to 120 MB per second, the app will play the same movies without transcoding and problems. But, Transcoding works fine with the FireTV App oder the iPhone App or playing Movies over the Webinterface. But if I have understood correctly, the server should transcode all incompatible movies so that they can played with the television? PS: I do not use emby connect... i'am using direct an static ip or hostname to connect to the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Got it, back when I read your first post I originally was thinking 2 TVs (one local and one remote) and the remote users were having problems for some reason, but you're just testing the bitrate setting on the same TV within your network. Your remote users will use any bitrate settings you specify from the server of course. If the app is requesting the server to transcode your files then it "should" be transcoding it into something that's compatible with your tv. I'll play with the bitrate setting on my tv once these silly presidential debates are over here to see if I can duplicate Correct, the app decides what needs or doesn't need to be transcoded based on what year series your tv is (yours is 2013 F-series) and the settings you make in the app. Basically it should DP anything your manual says it can handle and transcode the rest so that everything you throw at it plays in some form 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Okay, I tested several movies last night before going to bed and was able to duplicate this error in all DTS movies. All my movies that were AC3 or PCM transcoded and played fine with no error. Steps 1. Set max bitrate setting real low to force transcoding 2. Play video containing DTS audio codec Edited September 27, 2016 by FrostByte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 When transcoding file containing DTS it always creates an empty .ts file which I assume is why the Render type 0 error because the files codecs are invalid (there are none). The empty .ts files are still in the transcoding-temp folder and aren't deleted by the client after erroring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6742 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 When transcoding file containing DTS it always creates an empty .ts file which I assume is why the Render type 0 error because the files codecs are invalid (there are none). The empty .ts files are still in the transcoding-temp folder and aren't deleted by the client after erroring So a server-side issue ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Could be. I don't know the server side very well for sure. I can't find any transcoding errors in the server or transcoding logs telling me why it's creating the empty file and then stopping. I rarely transcode anything so I'm not sure when this may have started either and I know it has worked in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBers 6742 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 @@Ace of Space is on the latest Stable release (v2.1.3), so could try the latest Beta release (v2.2.0i). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 @@Ace of Space is on the latest Stable release (v2.1.3), so could try the latest Beta release (v2.2.0i). I'm on 2.2.0i and having the issue also. Maybe there was a change on the server? I can try maybe forcing the bitrate on my XB1 and see if I get the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Space 2 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi, with the emby theater cliient i don't have these problems. Its on my side only the Samsung Smart TV Client 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Hi, with the emby theater cliient i don't have these problems. Its on my side only the Samsung Smart TV Client I wasn't able to duplicate it with my XB1 app either. We'll probably have to wait for @cmcg to get back and take a look 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Space 2 Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 Any News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackner 1 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I have the same scenario and exactly the same problem, except that I have set the setting to 3mbits. Are there any News? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostByte 5024 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Unfortunately, it may be awhile until any changes to the older Orsay app can happen. The others who gave so much of their time to bring this free app to us have moved on and we are currently looking for a new developer for the Orsay app. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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