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#1 Luke OFFLINE  

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 02:44 PM

Let's improve the music experience, so please offer your suggestions. Specially the things I'm looking at changing are:

 

- music now playing screen (including the playlist - should we just merge them onto one screen?)

- Screensaver during music playback

- what happens after starting music playback - should we just bring you to the now playing screen?

 

@gcoupe and @ginjaninja always have good ideas about this.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:13 PM

When selecting an album to play we are presented with the track list. I would like this also be the current play list. So when I click on a track to play it, we stay on that screen and the play/pause will appear on that track, indicating that is what is playing. Then to play another track, I just scroll down to that track and play it, or just press skip. Having to go forward another two levels is a pain. The three dot options on the track are great, no suggestions on that. So keep it all on this screen.

 

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:19 PM

Another major thing I'd like, is for the sound to follow the speaker arrangement we choose in the settings. I have mine set to 7.1, but music is played in stereo. I'd like it played through all speakers.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:28 PM

- music now playing screen (including the playlist - should we just merge them onto one screen?)

 

Yes.  Doesn't have to look exactly like this, but an example:

 

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- Screensaver during music playback

 

Yes

 

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- what happens after starting music playback - should we just bring you to the now playing screen?

 

Yes - unless you just added something to a queue of already playing items.  In that case, you probably want to stay where you are so you can add more.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 03:32 PM

For the screensaver, what about MTV music video style? Remember they used to have the album art in the lower left along with the details right next to it.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 04:38 PM

For a screen saver, when I was using the zune player, it would pull images of the artist from what I assumed was the internet, and make a slideshow from them. I liked that. I like ebr's suggestion, with the info on the screen like that. Maybe that with a slideshow of the now playing artist? 

 

What about volume normalizing? That would nice, or is this only about the UI?


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 07:11 PM

I'd like the ability to easily kick off a shuffle play from most any screen.  For example, I click a genre and see the buttons Play All, Shuffle, and Instant Mix.  The latter two don't do anything.  Play All plays all songs in alphabetic order by song track.  If I have a shuffle button I expect it to play the current group of tracks in random order.

 

On playback go straight to Now Playing.

 

For screensaver during music it doesn't make sense to see movie images.  I'd REALLY like an option to use my photo library, but barring that it should stick to music-related images.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 08:15 PM

I tend to think some text needs to go on/with album artwork in many places.  A lot of times I'm staring at an album I'm not that familiar with and have no idea who the artist is or what the album name is.

 

I like ebr's suggestion for the screen saver.  I'd also like to see a mock up of the MTV style.  The only problem with associating it with the current playing music will be if the current album doesn't have any nice backdrop images.  Do we get a black screen?  

 

Perhaps having something that does a nice effect scrolling through random cover art, or random music backdrop images could work too?

 

I also think in music it is important (as it is for movies) that we have the ability to skip through lists by just starting to type a name, just like the EWMC client did.

 

Is there any easy way to integrate something like spotify into the music library, so that all your music can be played from the one location?



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 09:47 PM

+1 for the photo album screen saver. Choice of transition would be a bonus and overlay (a la MTV) at the start of a new song would be bliss.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 09:49 PM

For the screensaver, what about MTV music video style? Remember they used to have the album art in the lower left along with the details right next to it.

 

I can't seem to find it anywhere, but the best music screensaver I remember is the desktop version of Zune. Man, that was gorgeous. I'll try and find a clip.

 

Edit: Found one here. It's not a great example since the framerate is like 1sec... but you get the idea.

 

If you could pull off something like this, I think it would be amazing.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:11 PM

Here is another slightly better example (still low framerate for some annoying reason). I love the way the text overlay moves diagonally, and in different directions. I'd love to see this for the video screensaver as well. I like that it shows stats on how may times it's played etc. I think that could be really nice.

 


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:19 PM

Here is another slightly better example (still low framerate for some annoying reason). I love the way the text overlay moves diagonally, and in different directions. I'd love to see this for the video screensaver as well. I like that it shows stats on how may times it's played etc. I think that could be really nice.

 

 

And if it couldn't do it for the artist, it would put up revolving covers

 

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:21 PM

Omg, that ninja tuna cover still pops up randomly.

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 01:46 AM

I kinda like it the way it is with a few tweaks:

 

Background fanart changes (as it does now), but also has the zoom-in/out moving effect.

Cover art / text etc fades out after xx seconds (maybe relocate to lower screen as to not obscure fanart behind it).

For the playlist: on or off toggle (as it is now).

 

It would be nice when you start a playlist to load Now Playing.

 

Those Zune screens are pretty nice but very busy... play count??! (why?)

Also if the text could be toggled off on those screens then it wouldn't distract from the fanart.

I personally would not like a random cover art wall.

 

I have seen a few Kodi screens that have Milkdrop/ProjectM visualization overlay semi-transparent on top of artwork that also looks nice

 

Mainly, not too busy... let the fanart shine through.

Also, if you could add the ... somewhere when browsing songs to do an instant mix.

It seems as it is now, you can only instant mix an album (and then are lucky if it ever plays within the mix)


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 04:39 AM

I agree with most of the suggestions, but have one (maybe weird) request.

My family and I like to guess the song and artist by occasion.

I have an album with 2000 songs that is ideal for this little game (but I could also use multiple albums for this).

 

The way we use this is to select the large album and shuffle play.

In the current music set-up, the view stays at the album view, without showing the details of the song.

When everyone has had a chance to guess the song/artist, we hit the now playing button to check, then go back to the album view for the next song. It would be awesome if we could have a next song button on there to move on.

 

If the suggestions from other users are implemented, we would probably not be able to do this any more, so I would like to have the ability to hide the song and artist (maybe some sort of show/hide button?)



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 06:19 AM

- music now playing screen (including the playlist - should we just merge them onto one screen?)

- Screensaver during music playback

- what happens after starting music playback - should we just bring you to the now playing screen?

 

 

I'm still a fan of the old WMC "waterfall of album covers" screensaver, which also doubled as the "now playing" screen. An (optional) alternative would be a screensaver of photos (also in WMC), perhaps (optionally) overlaid with the "now playing" details...

 

I should perhaps also come clean and say that I no longer use Emby (or Plex) for playing my music - I use Roon instead.



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 10:32 AM

For a screen saver, when I was using the zune player, it would pull images of the artist from what I assumed was the internet, and make a slideshow from them. I liked that. I like ebr's suggestion, with the info on the screen like that. Maybe that with a slideshow of the now playing artist? 

 

That's exactly what the above one does.  It rotates backdrops for the artist of the song currently playing.


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 12:29 PM

autor @im85288  rotating oval cd-art =brilliant idea

 

add

+description artist

+album description

+a description of the song

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 12:54 PM

Hopefully, whatever is implemented, there will be some sort of configuration to allow fallback to just the basics (album art, title, artist, duration).

You might also consider hiding the onscreen controls and pop them up using the up arrow or something (might also be a good place to have  button for config).

 

Lastly, did I mention crossfade? (that would be cool)



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 02:22 PM

Two things I like with the Amazon Prime music app that may be worth consideration

 

1) Lyrics being displayed as the song plays

2) Thumbs up/down quick buttons to promote or reject tracks from random/shuffle play.

 

I expect the first would require a decent amount of develop to include (source or lyrics, where they are stored - in source media / in database, how they are processed/displayed); but I would have thought the second one would be fairly straight forward, just another field in the user database.


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