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#21 Allan Cameron OFFLINE  

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Posted 27 September 2016 - 03:17 AM

I am using the shield client. It's an amazing client. Very modern and offers a fresh emby experience. If the out dated current Roku client is ever modernized I will be sure to check it out. I will be picking up the new Roku Ultra on Oct,10th so I have the latest. I love the Roku but emby is just to dated with many modernized options available now on other Hardware.
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Posted 28 September 2016 - 12:54 PM

Shield client?



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Posted 28 September 2016 - 12:58 PM

Shield client?

 

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:36 PM

Is there any status update on this Emby Development? When is this going to get updated? Your main competitor Plex has already updated their Roku interface so that it matches all their other interfaces. When is Emby going to do the same thing? Why has this been so low on the list of priorities? Do you all need a Roku developer?



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:16 AM

We are working on it.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 01:40 PM

We are working on it.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

There is no recruitment of others to help? I haven't heard so much as a peep.

 

I <3 the roku, but that is obvious. How far is your code along? Can you give us any details other than "we are working on it?". It would be nice if there was open dialog. The whole project is open source, except the conversations. One would imagine that if it was really being worked on that others would know about it. The ones designing it would share information about what was happening. I share all my information and code with others.

 

Do you need help @ebr? Am I just a mushroom? Fed shit and kept in the dark? It would be nice to know. It would be nice if you could reach beyond the regular "its in the works" comment, and you could open up and let us know how far along it is. Is it anywhere close to ready? Is it just being conceptualized? Can others contribute to the effort? All I am asking for is honesty, when all I get is cold stares. You feel me? Yeah.. you do. :)


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:43 PM

Am I just a mushroom? 

 

If you were a mushroom, what kind of mushroom would you be?  Would you be smokeable?  



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:53 PM

He'd be a magic psychedelic mushroom

 

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:56 PM

Let's hope Blue Neon Night is adopted as the official Roku app.

No point re-inventing the wheel, again ;)
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:02 PM

He'd be a magic psychedelic mushroom

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Haw.. def prefer psilocybin over mescaline. No need to smoke it unless you top your bowl of weed with it, like people do with hash. Just chew it up, and prepare to take flight. No stewardesses or in-flight movies required.

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:06 PM

Let's hope Blue Neon Night is adopted as the official Roku app.

No point re-inventing the wheel, again ;)

 

The SDK and application architectures are new and different, so while both apps are perfectly fine today, in terms of going into the future, neither will be suitable for new application development.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:27 PM

The SDK and application architectures are new and different, so while both apps are perfectly fine today, in terms of going into the future, neither will be suitable for new application development.

 

I agree. The present app is using what roku calls sdk1. It makes use of templated interfaces using "ro" in front of them. The entire app presently is built using these pre-made templates which the app populates with data. With sdk2 (sgnode,scene-graph) the game changes. It is now up to the developer to create the template, and populate it too. This allows much more freedom, but it also means every screen template used must be hand designed entirely in sg-node xml. Once the screen templates are designed, the easy part happens again and you just populate data into the template to render.

 

This makes it more difficult than just using the sdk1 and throwing data at the screen. You must design the entire UI too. This will of course take time as you first have to become versed in how sdk2 operates, learn the functions, and start to understand the workflow. I agree it isn't something as easy as everyone probably thinks it is. I would like to contribute to this, but I would need a new device which presently I cannot afford. So presently I can help with the 720p UI the roku3 supports. To help with the design of the 1080p UI I would need a new roku ultra device. So if any kind individuals are reading this thread and are independently wealthy this poor soul could use some love.. lol.. Feel free to message me on these forums too. I read all and reply to all messages. Thanks :)


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:35 PM

In order to compete in the market in which we now play it is necessary for us to keep some things a little closer to the vest.  I know that this may rub some of our long-time supporters a bit of the wrong way but it really is the only way for us to be able to continue to bring you the best possible product.

 

Right now, this re-design is a small private project.  We hope to have something out within the next several weeks though.  The store process with Roku is actually going to limit us a bit here which probably means our first offering will have some limited (but hopefully all basic) functionality.  At such time that we feel we are ready to take on additional helping hands we will definitely let you know.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:51 PM

I agree. The present app is using what roku calls sdk1. It makes use of templated interfaces using "ro" in front of them. The entire app presently is built using these pre-made templates which the app populates with data. With sdk2 (sgnode,scene-graph) the game changes. It is now up to the developer to create the template, and populate it too. This allows much more freedom, but it also means every screen template used must be hand designed entirely in sg-node xml. Once the screen templates are designed, the easy part happens again and you just populate data into the template to render.

 

This makes it more difficult than just using the sdk1 and throwing data at the screen. You must design the entire UI too. This will of course take time as you first have to become versed in how sdk2 operates, learn the functions, and start to understand the workflow. I agree it isn't something as easy as everyone probably thinks it is. I would like to contribute to this, but I would need a new device which presently I cannot afford. So presently I can help with the 720p UI the roku3 supports. To help with the design of the 1080p UI I would need a new roku ultra device. So if any kind individuals are reading this thread and are independently wealthy this poor soul could use some love.. lol.. Feel free to message me on these forums too. I read all and reply to all messages. Thanks :)

 

Not wealthy, but happy to help scrape some cash and get devices in the hands of developers.  Ive done it before when the roku4 came out.

 

I would love to see a new app that has the latest interface options like:

 - like grid view for live tv

 - DVR management on the roku

 - manage recordings

 - set up season pass

 - tv show search

 - more direct play/stream capabilities (like blue neon)

 - etcc


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:54 PM

@farside847, I remember you helping with the Roku 4. I even donated. Maybe if @speechles gave us what model he would like we could do it again?

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:55 PM

 

In order to compete in the market in which we now play it is necessary for us to keep some things a little closer to the vest.  I know that this may rub some of our long-time supporters a bit of the wrong way but it really is the only way for us to be able to continue to bring you the best possible product.

 

Right now, this re-design is a small private project.  We hope to have something out within the next several weeks though.  The store process with Roku is actually going to limit us a bit here which probably means our first offering will have some limited (but hopefully all basic) functionality.  At such time that we feel we are ready to take on additional helping hands we will definitely let you know.

 

 

For nowTV users will there continue to be a zip-file? This is where plex left nowTV users behind. They also keep their roku source code as an encrypted .pkg you have to download only onto a roku device. It is clear why plex did this which is to keep emby and others from using their source. In the end what plex did was shoot themselves in the foot with their app. They closed off any opportunity they had.

 

Emby will keep this all open source? I don't want to leave any users behind and close off the source. That would be a very sad day.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:55 PM

What are you guys using for developement on this? Can others be added to the team? I think there are some of us on here that would be interested in helping with this part of the project.

 

Have you all ever looked at Marmalade or Visual Studio to do the development for the Roku with? https://www.madewithmarmalade.com/roku

http://www.wearerati...log/roku_sdk_2/

 

 



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:59 PM

Marmalade has been around for so long. Is it even up to date with the new sdk? 

 

Using visual studio as a text editor for brightscript is fine, but if they're trying to provide some kind of development abstraction then I would stay away. having another layer on top of the roku SDK just makes it more difficult to troubleshoot, because when there is a problem it's hard to determine who is responsible. But if you're just talking about a text editor for brs and xml, it might be nice.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:08 PM

@farside847, I remember you helping with the Roku 4. I even donated. Maybe if @speechles gave us what model he would like we could do it again?

 

That was very kind of you guys. I do appreciate you offering to help. If it could be done the same way that would be awesome. Right now development is stuck in 720p UI. The only devices which have a 1080p UI are the premier+ and ultra. The only difference the ultra allows is SP-DIF out and a "roku locate" button on the top which makes the remote beep so you can find it. I wouldn't need all the ultra has to help develop on a 1080p UI. So whatever you guys feel is appropriate is fine with me. I dont want to charge users for the app. I never want to. So my efforts will always be free of charge. This is why it is sort of embarassing to ask others to provide me a new roku. I normally wouldn't ask, but I have rung all I can out of the present roku app and my roku3. There isnt much functionality the app is missing now. It is time to move onto the next app. To do so I just need help. :)



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:18 PM

What are you guys using for developement on this? Can others be added to the team? I think there are some of us on here that would be interested in helping with this part of the project.

 

Have you all ever looked at Marmalade or Visual Studio to do the development for the Roku with? https://www.madewithmarmalade.com/roku

http://www.wearerati...log/roku_sdk_2/

 

I actually just use notepad. If I need line numbers to debug with I use conTEXT. Then telnet to see through the roku's eyes to debug. It isnt really required you set up a full IDE to work with.

 

http://ereader.kicze...ueneonnight.zip

 

These are the sources to my build. Feel free to have a peek inside and look them over. If you see places where I've made mistakes please let me know. Is there a roku team? Should we start a membership drive? I am sure others are interested too.






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