josch.hh 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Got a new philips 65pus8601. The sad thing is that it does not appear int the device list of the emby server config pages and i can't browse the content of emby via the TV (even if emby appears in the list of DLNA server on the tv) BTW there is also no philips in the DLNA profil list of the emby server - dont know if this a problem as i assume emby is choosing the default problem in there is no special one. DLNA is working well with this TV for example with serviio. Does anyone have the same issue? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Maybe emby has an issue because the Philips TV is a "DLNA Server" and in parallel a "DLNA renderer". The device spy from the intel upnp sdk says: TV DLNA Server device: Base URL http://192.168.42.112:49154/ Device icon Present, 48x48 Device URN urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaServer:3 Embedded devices 0 Expiration timeout 1800 Friendly name 65PUS8601/12 Has presentation False Interface to host 192.168.42.122 Manufacturer Royal Philips Electronics Manufacturer URL http://www.philips.com Model description Philips TV Server Model name Philips TV Server Model number 2k15MTK Model URL http://www.philips.com/ Presentation URL Product code 123456789123 Proprietary type Remote endpoint 192.168.42.112:49154 Serial number 123456789-serial Services 2 Standard type MediaServer Unique device name 5AFEF00D-BABE-DADA-FA5A-1c5a6bb5e9ea Version 3.0 TV DLNA renderer device: Base URL http://192.168.42.112:49153/ Device icon Present, 48x48 Device URN urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:MediaRenderer:3 Embedded devices 0 Expiration timeout 1800 Friendly name 65PUS8601/12 Has presentation True Interface to host 192.168.42.122 Manufacturer Philips Manufacturer URL http://www.philips.com Model description UPnP Media Renderer 1.0 Model name Philips TV DMR Model number 2k15MTK Model URL http://www.philips.com/ Presentation URL http://192.168.42.112:49153/nmr.html Product code 123456789012 Proprietary type Remote endpoint 192.168.42.112:49153 Serial number 12345 Services 3 Standard type MediaRenderer Unique device name F00DBABE-AA5E-BABA-DADA-1c5a6bb5e9ea Version 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) As mentioned i can't browse emby as DLNA server, but i can see it in the list of DLNA servers on the tv. The log on emby's side when trying to browse it from the tv is: 2016-05-06 21:20:35.4634 Info HttpServer: HTTP POST http://192.168.42.2:8096/dlna/5e2f5831a4857a8ed82c26c1e7d519c9/contentdirectory/control. UserAgent: Linux2.6/0.0 UPnP/1.0 PhilipsIntelSDK/1.4 DLNADOC/1.50 2016-05-06 21:20:35.5027 Info HttpServer: HTTP Response 200 to 192.168.42.112. Time: 40ms. http://192.168.42.2:8096/dlna/5e2f5831a4857a8ed82c26c1e7d519c9/contentdirectory/control 2016-05-06 21:22:52.3806 Info HttpClient: HttpClientManager GET: http://192.168.42.112:49153/nmrDescription.xml and sometimes 2016-05-06 21:25:34.9609 Info HttpServer: HTTP GET http://mserver:8096/emby/System/Configuration/dlna. UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 2016-05-06 21:25:34.9789 Info HttpServer: HTTP Response 200 to 192.168.42.122. Time: 18ms. http://mserver:8096/emby/System/Configuration/dlna 2016-05-06 21:25:34.9883 Info HttpServer: HTTP POST http://mserver:8096/emby/System/Configuration/dlna. UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 2016-05-06 21:25:34.9919 Info HttpServer: HTTP Response 204 to 192.168.42.122. Time: 4ms. http://mserver:8096/emby/System/Configuration/dlna Edited May 6, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 (edited) The issue remains but i was able to deactivate the DLNA server inside the TV. Had no impact. I also tried the emby Android TV app, but it is ofen crashing the TV. Absolutely no option. I would love to get DLNA render on the TV running like with other servers. Hope Luke can help. Edited May 6, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 6, 2016 Author Share Posted May 6, 2016 Update: Since i used the Android TV emby app the new TV finally appreaed in the device list of the emby server. Even twice, but none of the entries is a DLNA client profile :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddhartha 11 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 It's definitely a common issue. My DLNA play to devices that were once work now hardly ever show up in Emby. They do show up in other media servers though, so I know it's not a network issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Yes, after some testing yesterday night, it is definitly an emby issue. It is working wiith several other DLNA server and DLNA controller apps or software. I would like to know what Luke has to say, because i hope it is "really just an issue" with emby and not by design to force people spending money on emby premiere by using the android app (which is a stability catastroph). I just spend money on the emby ios emby app to play my stuff via "dlna play to". But the "play to" function is only using the (i guess - see picture above) chromecast connect, which is also not working stable -> TV was hanging after some testing with this functionnallity). I will get back with more detailed logs with the hope that Luke will read it and hopefully reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Here the promissed logs based on: 1.) Fresh start of emby 2.) Turn on the Philips TV 3.) Open the TV network source menu to show the list dlna servers 4.) Find emby in the list and try to browse the content emby is serving .... -> which is not possible (waiting symbol shows forever - see photo) Cooresponding log attached LUKE plz help me. server-63598244013.txt Edited May 7, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37008 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Unfortunately without having a Philips on hand for testing, I'm not sure what the issue is. I do know that it works from the test devices that I do have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Tell what you need and i do it. The intel upnp tools might be helpful. Just tell me what you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Unfortunately without having a Philips on hand for testing, I'm not sure what the issue is. I do know that it works from the test devices that I do have. Come on Luke. I am sure the other coders of other dlna server applications don't necessarily own Philips TV's but they made it running. You can make, I know it. ;-) Tell what i need to do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37008 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Right now I'm not sure. I know that it works fine from samsung. What you could do is use wireshark to compare xml responses between emby server and another media server that is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) I know it is working with Samsung ;-) I have two of them. The bad is i never used wireshark before. Of course i will try... can you give me a short hint what to do? BTW can i do the same with the "Device Sniffer" from the upnp intel tool set? Edited May 8, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37008 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 That could be fine too yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 I am little lost, too much stuff to look for. To be honest i don't know btw exactyl what to look for. One new finding is that the DLNA sharing also works well and easy with the standard AV Server from intel upnp sdk: When starting a emby server the device spy looks like this: .... and i can't browse the content as already explained ... With the intel av server it looks like this: @Luke: May it be that emby server stops adding the Philips TV as DLNA devvice into the clients list because it already added the TV as "chromecast" device? Samsung has its own TV OS without a possible connection typ like chromecast and maybe emby uses there the best possible client identification which is in this case DLNA. If this assumtion goes in the right direction it could be obvious that the Philips TV is simply not identified as DLNA client and therefore emby doesn't link a valid DLNA client profile.... and the result is maybe a "undefined state" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) For testing porposes i deleted the my Philips TV with the type "chormecast" device from the device list. (see posting #5) I tought this device should appear again in the list as soon as emby discovers it again, but this is not the case. I even change the ip of the TV but it is not coming back. How can i force emby to discover the chromecast device again? UPDATE: It seems to come back as soon as i use the Emby App on iOS. Anyhow, the chromecast connection from the emby iOS app is easily reproducible crashing the chromecast receiver software on the TV and cause the shole TV to hang by just some timeskipping in any direction Due to that, how can we continue to get it running with DLNA? Edited May 9, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37008 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 As far as the TV not appearing in the device list, there is a fix for that on the beta branch, in 3.0.5963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) As far as the TV not appearing in the device list, there is a fix for that on the beta branch, in 3.0.5963. Thanks for this, but i don't give up to get the DLNA stuff to run. Attached you will find a WIRESHARK recoring of the communication of the default Intel Media Server from the "Developers Toolkit for UPNP Technology" running on my PC and the Philips TV 65PUS8601: IP of the media server on my PC: 192.168.42.122 IP of the Philips TV: 192.168.42.114 What i did: Started Wireshark and filtered all activities to the IP of the TV Started the TV and navigated to the TV network sources overview Started the recording in Wireshark Started the Intel Media Server Software on my PC with some videofile to share Found the Intel media server on the list of the TV network sources overview Navigated with the TV into the share files of the Intel Media Server Stop Wireshark recording and save the content in the Wireshark format "pcapng" Luke, can you check if the Wireshark file is helping you? Thanks in advance PhilipsTV 65PUS8601 with Intel UPNP Media Server.zip Edited May 10, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) New test now with emby on my PC talking with the Philips TV: IP of the emby on my PC: 192.168.42.122 IP of the Philips TV: 192.168.42.114 Test 1) with Emby having NO files in the media library What i did: Started Wireshark and filtered all activities to the IP of the TV Started Emby with an EMPTY media library Started the TV and navigated to the TV network sources overview Started the recording in Wireshark Navigated to emby on the list of the TV network sources overview TV says that there are no file shared by emby (obviously) Stop Wireshark recording and save the content in the Wireshark format "pcapng" -> see attched Wireshark file Test 2) with Emby having files in the media library What i did: Started Wireshark and filtered all activities to the IP of the TV Started Emby with movie files in the media library Started the TV and navigated to the TV network sources overview Started the recording in Wireshark Navigated to emby on the list of the TV network sources overview TV shows the wait cursor ... never ending Stop Wireshark recording and save the content in the Wireshark format "pcapng" -> see attched Wireshark file @Luke: does this bing some light to you? PhilipsTV 65PUS8601 with Emby and empty library.zip PhilipsTV 65PUS8601 with Emby with full library.zip Edited May 11, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddhartha 11 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Try the latest dev and see http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/34718-devices-not-showing-up-in-play-to/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Try the latest dev and see http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/34718-devices-not-showing-up-in-play-to/ The latest dev builds i found were: 3.0.5967 and 3.0.5976.1757 and they both dont change anything for my issue. @Luke: did you have time to look into the wireshark files? Is this what you were looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgileHumor 123 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 I just tried the dev build and it did not help my scenario with a Sharp TV long forgotten by Emby (though it's a rather new DLNA TV that has fine Play To with Windows or other DLNA controllers). Sharp TV's not showing in Emby: http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/11522-sharp-aquos-smart-tv-dlna-not-showing-in-mb3 LG TV's (not mine, but similar when I searched for this thread): http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/34194-lg-tv-not-showing-in-devices Just an FYI that there is some reason some breed of DLNA TV's are not showing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Ping i don't give up to get it running with Philips. Any more data needed? P.S.: No improvement with 3.0.5973-beta Edited May 16, 2016 by josch.hh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 I don't want to give up ;-) Whatever data of input needed to get Phlips running just tell me. Would be nice to get a feedback on this, especially because of the Wiresharke files i provided, which Luke asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josch.hh 2 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Try the latest dev and see http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/34718-devices-not-showing-up-in-play-to/ No improvement at all with the latest official release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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