solabc16 379 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Ok, I've put an MKV file in the library to test with. This is what I see in the log, although the external player does not even attempt to launch. (and it doesn't try to play using the internal player) I've had a look through some other titles and see the same behaviour for ISOs where no media information has been detected. Here's the external player config:- 2016-04-18 20:49:09.4550 Info App: Profile: Unknown Profile, Path: \\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\DVDs\The Help (2011)\The Help (2011).mkv, isEligibleForDirectPlay: True, isEligibleForDirectStream: True2016-04-18 20:49:09.4550 Info App: Profile: Unknown Profile, Path: \\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\DVDs\The Help (2011)\The Help (2011).mkv, isEligibleForDirectPlay: True, isEligibleForDirectStream: True2016-04-18 20:49:09.4553 Info App: Profile: Unknown Profile, Path: \\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\DVDs\The Help (2011)\The Help (2011).mkv, isEligibleForDirectPlay: True, isEligibleForDirectStream: True2016-04-18 20:49:09.4553 Debug ProviderManager: Saving /volume1/EmbyServer/Movies/DVDs/The Help (2011)/The Help (2011).mkv to Nfo.2016-04-18 20:49:09.4577 Info HttpServer: HTTP Response 200 to 192.168.236.108. Time: 8ms. http://192.168.236.105:8096/emby/Items/948899ec12dfe6b9f7699611a107fcf1/PlaybackInfo?UserId=0e338bf82b684e2e9601d46c1ec78c68&StartTimeTicks=0 **** e.g. a title showing no media info will attempt to launch the external player, albeit with the {path} being a transcoded source. e.g. a title with media info, will not do anything with the external player configured for ISO and VIDEO. Best - James Edited April 18, 2016 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Hello After some more digging, the issues seems a little less clear than this. Launching a batch/command script (i.e. .bat or .cmd) appear to be very unreliable. Running a process monitor, I can see that the cmd.exe is started on only a handful of occasions. As a test, I changed the configuration to simply launch makemkv.exe, which worked with 100% reliability. I then switched it to try and launch a command prompt by configuring the player to 'C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe', this did not work; the process is never created. How is the external player being launched by ET, are there any restrictions implicit or explicit? No problems testing the same with MB Theatre, the script is launched reliably 100% of the time. - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscoys 143 Posted April 18, 2016 Author Share Posted April 18, 2016 Is your maximum bitrates set to "auto" in settings? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Yes, 'Max streaming bitrate' is set to Auto in Playback Settings -> Advanced. With MB Theater (v3.0.5859.23399)I get the expected result reliably, as below... Pass Direct Mount The latter being what I will replicate in the script before launching the external player. - James Edited April 18, 2016 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronsws6 4 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 VLC works fine in MBT but in Emby ISO's don't work and some MKVs are jittery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37009 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Try it again. I pushed an update. The external player should always direct play now as long as the machine running Emby Theater can directly access the path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsnake8 27 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Hi all,For anyone wanting to use Powerdvd 15 or 16 to playback 3D ISO's, I found a method that works on both of my machines. I put my virtual optical drive (C:\Program Files (x86)\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\VCDMount.exe) in the player path and the argument {path} only. I changed the association of the ISO's from Virtual Clone Drive to open with Powerdvd 16 and it works just great. I do have to manually hit the play button once Powerdvd pops up. I seems to be fairly fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) Evening Luke - which version is this in? I've just loaded up ET and it's still running v2.2.2, which is the version I was running yesterday. 2016-04-19 20:20:52.6885 Info App: Application version: 2.2.2.0 2016-04-19 20:20:55.9115 Info App: Executing Check for application updates 2016-04-19 20:20:55.9425 Info App: HttpClientManager GET: https://api.github.com/repos/MediaBrowser/Emby.Theater.Windows/releases 2016-04-19 20:20:55.9895 Info App: Http POST windowsize 2016-04-19 20:20:57.2436 Debug App: No application update available. 2016-04-19 20:20:57.2436 Info App: Check for application updates Completed after 0 minute(s) and 1 seconds This is the request/response from a protocol capture when hitting play, the external player isn't launched... POST http://192.168.236.105:8096/emby/Items/e7b99dcf587d322e6f65a8e77a779ef6/PlaybackInfo?UserId=0e338bf82b684e2e9601d46c1ec78c68&StartTimeTicks=0 HTTP/1.1 Host: 192.168.236.105:8096 Connection: keep-alive Content-Length: 1041 accept: application/json x-mediabrowser-token: 4bd17bfd58bb4d76a402e6290cd5cb82 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) EmbyTheater/2.2.2 Chrome/49.0.2623.75 Electron/0.37.6 Safari/537.36 x-emby-authorization: MediaBrowser Client="Emby Theater", Device="endor", DeviceId="endor", Version="2.2.2", UserId="0e338bf82b684e2e9601d46c1ec78c68" Origin: http://mediabrowser.github.io content-type: application/json Referer: http://mediabrowser.github.io/Emby.Web/index.html?v=1461096697197 Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate {"DeviceProfile":{"MaxStreamingBitrate":225882353,"MaxStaticBitrate":100000000,"MusicStreamingTranscodingBitrate":192000,"DirectPlayProfiles":[{"Container":"m4v,3gp,ts,mpegts,mov,xvid,vob,mkv,wmv,asf,ogm,ogv,m2v,avi,mpg,mpeg,mp4,webm,wtv,dvr-ms,iso","Type":"Video"},{"Container":"aac,mp3,mpa,wav,wma,mp2,ogg,oga,webma,ape,opus,flac","Type":"Audio"}],"TranscodingProfiles":[{"Container":"mkv","Type":"Video","AudioCodec":"aac,mp3,ac3","VideoCodec":"h264","Context":"Streaming"},{"Container":"mp3","Type":"Audio","AudioCodec":"mp3","Context":"Streaming","Protocol":"http"}],"ContainerProfiles":[],"CodecProfiles":[],"SubtitleProfiles":[{"Format":"srt","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"subrip","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"ass","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"ssa","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"pgs","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"pgssub","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"dvdsub","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"vtt","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"sub","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"idx","Method":"Embed"},{"Format":"smi","Method":"Embed"}],"ResponseProfiles":[]}} HTTP/1.1 200 OK X-UA-Compatible: IE=Edge X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN Vary: Accept-Encoding X-Powered-By: ServiceStack/4.00 Unix/Mono Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * Access-Control-Allow-Methods: GET, POST, PUT, DELETE, OPTIONS Access-Control-Allow-Headers: Content-Type, Authorization, Range, X-MediaBrowser-Token, X-Emby-Authorization Expires: -1 Server: Mono-HTTPAPI/1.1, UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.50 Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 20:16:56 GMT Content-Length: 882 {"MediaSources":[{"Protocol":"File","Id":"e7b99dcf587d322e6f65a8e77a779ef6","Path":"\\\\JFK\\EmbyServer\\Movies\\BDs\\Alien (1979)\\Alien (1979).iso","Type":"Default","Container":"iso","Name":"ISO","ReadAtNativeFramerate":false,"SupportsTranscoding":true,"SupportsDirectStream":false,"SupportsDirectPlay":false,"RequiresOpening":false,"RequiresClosing":false,"VideoType":"Iso","MediaStreams":[],"PlayableStreamFileNames":[],"Formats":[],"RequiredHttpHeaders":{},"TranscodingUrl":"/videos/e7b99dcf587d322e6f65a8e77a779ef6/stream.mkv?DeviceId=endor&MediaSourceId=e7b99dcf587d322e6f65a8e77a779ef6&VideoCodec=h264&AudioCodec=aac&VideoBitrate=225754353&AudioBitrate=128000&PlaySessionId=6bfd7a1659b74b0f96c877a3ea66c08c&api_key=4bd17bfd58bb4d76a402e6290cd5cb82&CopyTimestamps=false&ForceLiveStream=false","TranscodingContainer":"mkv"}],"PlaySessionId":"6bfd7a1659b74b0f96c877a3ea66c08c"} - James Edited April 19, 2016 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) I've had a look to see what's going on when launching batch/command scripts, here's what the issue is:- 22:00:17.7478114 cmd.exe 3544 Process Start SUCCESS Parent PID: 8992, Command line: C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe /c "C:\Program Files (x86)\Emby-Theater\EpLaunch.cmd" "\\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\BDs\Alien (1979)\Alien (1979).iso" 22:00:17.7478193 cmd.exe 3544 Thread Create SUCCESS Thread ID: 2892 22:00:17.7798574 cmd.exe 3544 QueryDirectory C:\Program.* NO SUCH FILE Filter: Program.* 22:00:17.7799633 cmd.exe 3544 QueryDirectory C:\Program NO SUCH FILE Filter: Program The entire parameter passed to /C, which includeds any additional arguements (e.g. in this case {PATH}, needs to be quoted. With this information, the problem can be recreated easily in a command window:- The command line needs to be constructed as:- C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe /C ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Emby-Theater\EpLaunch.cmd" "\\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\BDs\Alien (1979)\Alien (1979).iso"" As a cross-reference and sanity check, if I ask the OS to execute "C:\Program Files (x86)\Emby-Theater\EpLaunch.cmd" "\\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\BDs\Alien (1979)\Alien (1979).iso", the OS creates the cmd.exe process automatically as follows with the correct quoting:- 22:49:54.3099615 cmd.exe 2692 Process Start SUCCESS Parent PID: 5476, Command line: C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe /c ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Emby-Theater\EpLaunch.cmd" "\\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\BDs\Alien (1979)\Alien (1979).iso"" I've tried some kludges to get around this in the external player configuration, but without any luck so far as the quotes are getting escaped in the arguments. - James Edited April 19, 2016 by solabc16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrik 12 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 I set my "Display" to Auto and the problem went away and the external player stays in front now. So I'd say it is an ET problem not the PC or OS. I set my display to auto as well, but the external player stays behind the ET interface. The only way to avoid the issue, is to set ET to not run full screen. But of course that defeats the purpose. Anybody else having this issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Hi dimitrik I've just had a play with VLC and it worked correctly with ET running windowed and full screen on my system (Win7 x64) - this was with v2.2.2 of ET. Here's the setup I was using for the external player:- Which external player were you using? If I've got it, I'll test and see what happens here and let you know. - James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Dog 19 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) I set my display to auto as well, but the external player stays behind the ET interface. The only way to avoid the issue, is to set ET to not run full screen. But of course that defeats the purpose. Anybody else having this issue? Yes, and it's infuriating. I can mount an ISO and load powerdvd but it always returns back to Emby screen hiding the player behind it. Any suggestions @@Luke? Windows 10 Edited April 20, 2016 by Della Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscoys 143 Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 +1 I already mentioned that point. Maybe when the external player's launched Emby could minimize itself? After playback it could mazimize itself? Don't know if it is possible because ET have to monitor the instance of external player... @@Luke : is implementation of my proposal possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37009 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Hi dimitrik I've just had a play with VLC and it worked correctly with ET running windowed and full screen on my system (Win7 x64) - this was with v2.2.2 of ET. Here's the setup I was using for the external player:- Which external player were you using? If I've got it, I'll test and see what happens here and let you know. - James Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37009 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 @@Luke : is implementation of my proposal possible? well before we even worry about that we have to start by not having it take back focus after the external player is launched. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37009 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 i can't reproduce the focus change after a few seconds. But I do see one thing in that when fullscreen, the Theater window is marked as always on top, so that needs to be disabled when the external player opens. currently the external player opens behind theater when in fullscreen. after switching manually, it's all fine from there. in the meantime if the player you're using has an on top argument, then you could try using that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsnake8 27 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yes, and it's infuriating. I can mount an ISO and load powerdvd but it always returns back to Emby screen hiding the player behind it. Any suggestions @@Luke? Windows 10 Yes I have the same problem powerdvd behind ET. As far as setting Powerdvd 16 "always on top" I did that and no improvement ET will not give up focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbonzo17 26 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I have posted twice about external player for 3D iso's, I am currently using PowerDVD 15. This feature would be a very welcome addition to ET. I am a 3D addict. Right now though EMC is my first choice. I am running Windows 10 and have no problems it seems to run smoother for me than Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Morning Any ideas (Luke?) on why ET doesn't create the external process correctly when the external player specificed is a batch script? [see http://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/31284-external-player-support/?p=323032] I've just run MBT with a process monitor this morning and this confirms that the external player implementation in this version does this correctly. 09:15:11.0533496 cmd.exe 9348 Process Start SUCCESS Parent PID: 1260, Command line: C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe /c ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Emby-Theater\EpLaunch.cmd" "\\JFK\EmbyServer\Movies\DVDs\About a Boy (2002)\About a Boy (2002).iso"" 09:15:11.0533594 cmd.exe 9348 Thread Create SUCCESS Thread ID: 3220 - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabc16 379 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Yes I have the same problem powerdvd behind ET. As far as setting Powerdvd 16 "always on top" I did that and no improvement ET will not give up focus. Morning I just tried PowerDVD 15 here and it behaved as expected, so something else other than or in addition to the 'always on top' setting for the window is at play. Video here https://www.dropbox.com/s/aevm0z3w2zo20qv/powerdvdcinema.mp4?dl=0 - James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscoys 143 Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 i can't reproduce the focus change after a few seconds. But I do see one thing in that when fullscreen, the Theater window is marked as always on top, so that needs to be disabled when the external player opens. currently the external player opens behind theater when in fullscreen. after switching manually, it's all fine from there. in the meantime if the player you're using has an on top argument, then you could try using that. I use Splash 2.0 and always on top is checked in this video player. When launching it opens behind ET. I have to reduce ET to see the movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Della Dog 19 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Is there something that allows us to "record" or monitor ET events. I ask because for some of us ET must be firing some event after a short period that cases it to be the main focus. PowerDvd will launch on top, and after a short delay, ET presents itself on top - what possible fired event causes this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrik 12 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Hi dimitrik I've just had a play with VLC and it worked correctly with ET running windowed and full screen on my system (Win7 x64) - this was with v2.2.2 of ET. Here's the setup I was using for the external player:- Which external player were you using? If I've got it, I'll test and see what happens here and let you know. - James Thanks James. I'm using MPC-HC configured with MadVR, Full Screen Exclusive mode. The arguments I'm using are: {path} /play /close /fullscreen i can't reproduce the focus change after a few seconds. But I do see one thing in that when fullscreen, the Theater window is marked as always on top, so that needs to be disabled when the external player opens. currently the external player opens behind theater when in fullscreen. after switching manually, it's all fine from there. in the meantime if the player you're using has an on top argument, then you could try using that. Sadly MPC HC doesn't have anything like that. It has a /nofocus flag to open in the background only ;-) However, as it is configured to use FSE with MadVR, it really shouldn't lose focus, but like the other players mentioned, it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscoys 143 Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Thx a lot for VLC advices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronsws6 4 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Try it again. I pushed an update. The external player should always direct play now as long as the machine running Emby Theater can directly access the path. This seemed to fix my issues with VLC! Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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