revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 We know there is some sort of issue here but it isn't an easy fix and is fairly limited (I know, that doesn't do you much good since you are part of the group it affects). For now, there is a Server Restart plug-in in the catalog. Perhaps installing that and having it schedule a re-start late at night when no one is using the system will be a stop-gap so you don't have to babysit it. Ok, a dev admission that something aint right here is the first step. Please let me know if there is any additional information I can contribute to a solution. Does the restart plugin work for emby server as a windows service? I am asking because my service purposely is not running a logged in server so running as service is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Running the dev version has gotten me around the need for the server restart issue. So that is a stop gap for now. Are you saying the memory leak/high memory usage issue has already been fixed in the dev version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Are you saying the memory leak/high memory usage issue has already been fixed in the dev version? No, I'm saying I don't see it because of the constant updates to the dev server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 No, I'm saying I don't see it because of the constant updates to the dev server. Hehe, that's another way of working around the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Does the restart plugin work for emby server as a windows service? I am asking because my service purposely is not running a logged in server so running as service is required. Sorry, no. The service cannot re-start itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Sorry, no. The service cannot re-start itself. Thanks for the response, that's what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Does the restart plugin work for emby server as a windows service? I am asking because my service purposely is not running a logged in server so running as service is required. You could always create a schedule task to restart the service. We do that a lot at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intrepd 0 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 We know there is some sort of issue here but it isn't an easy fix and is fairly limited (I know, that doesn't do you much good since you are part of the group it affects). For now, there is a Server Restart plug-in in the catalog. Perhaps installing that and having it schedule a re-start late at night when no one is using the system will be a stop-gap so you don't have to babysit it. Regarding it not being an easy fix--is this because you haven't been able to reproduce the problem? I ask because I have some development experience and would like to take a look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 You could always create a schedule task to restart the service. We do that a lot at work.Good idea. I have not used the task scheduler for this but I am sure I can figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanio 35 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 You could create a batch file that task scheduler calls at a specified time. something simple like this net stop emby ping -n xx (gives time for process to close - will need to work out how long works for you) net start emby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I would do something like this. Echo Off CLS net stop "emby" Echo Please wait a second timeout /t 15 /nobreak net stop "emby" timeout /t 15 /nobreak net start "emby" What that does is stops the services, waits 15 seconds, trys to stop the service again (safety check), waits another 15 seconds and then starts emby. You can always adjust the time to speed it up or slow it down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Many thanks for the solutions. To remain on topic, it would be could for Intrepd to get a reply from ebr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Regarding it not being an easy fix--is this because you haven't been able to reproduce the problem? I ask because I have some development experience and would like to take a look at it. We think we know what the crux of the issue is and has to do with the memory requirements of dealing with as much data as we are in the format in which we are. It just isn't an easy fix but we probably know how we will address it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revengineer 124 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 We think we know what the crux of the issue is and has to do with the memory requirements of dealing with as much data as we are in the format in which we are. It just isn't an easy fix but we probably know how we will address it. That would explain why so much ram is needed. But I am not sure your theory addresses why not all of the ram is eventually released. In my case the latter is the bigger issue. I can work with the former as I have plenty of ram and since the 4GB patch I do not see out of memory errors. In any case, there are folks here that can reproduce the issue and are willing to help by various means. Let us know if you need help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 We know there is some sort of issue here but it isn't an easy fix and is fairly limited (I know, that doesn't do you much good since you are part of the group it affects). For now, there is a Server Restart plug-in in the catalog. Perhaps installing that and having it schedule a re-start late at night when no one is using the system will be a stop-gap so you don't have to babysit it. Thanks for the tip ebr. I will start using that now. I have noticed the rising memory usage over time for the past 2 months but never posted about it because I had seen other posts regarding it and I figured it would get fixed at some point. Mine usually starts at around 78mb to 115mb when I either restart the computer or the server for an update. It then usually creeps up to around 335 to 400mb over a few days. It seems to stick in the 300s for me and rarely goes over 400 but maybe that is due to server/computer restarts that I do fairly often. Plus, I have plenty of memory so the higest % I usually get to is around 40% total with everything running and the server. But, the server is always the program using the most memory of any program I have at any given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thanks for the tip ebr. I will start using that now. I have noticed the rising memory usage over time for the past 2 months but never posted about it because I had seen other posts regarding it and I figured it would get fixed at some point. Mine usually starts at around 78mb to 115mb when I either restart the computer or the server for an update. It then usually creeps up to around 335 to 400mb over a few days. It seems to stick in the 300s for me and rarely goes over 400 but maybe that is due to server/computer restarts that I do fairly often. Plus, I have plenty of memory so the higest % I usually get to is around 40% total with everything running and the server. But, the server is always the program using the most memory of any program I have at any given time. I think that's just normal. Emby requires memory to operate and, as you access more and more of your library, more memory may be required. But, you should see it level off like you do. The problem these other folks are having is related to the guide refresh when there is a large channel line-up and, with the right combination of factors, this memory build-up can become too much for what is available to the app (much less than what is actually on the machine). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I think that's just normal. Emby requires memory to operate and, as you access more and more of your library, more memory may be required. But, you should see it level off like you do. The problem these other folks are having is related to the guide refresh when there is a large channel line-up and, with the right combination of factors, this memory build-up can become too much for what is available to the app (much less than what is actually on the machine). Ah, Ok. Yeah, I haven't noticed anything unusual directly related to the guide updating. I do have 200+ channels on the Prime and thought I may have a similar issue, but nice to know what I should be at memory usage-wise. I only have two plugins though (Trakt and Kodi Sync) as when I used to use Coverart it went even higher when that was processing images a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andcbii 12 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 For the time being i've just set EMBY to update the guide data every other day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyFr79 228 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Let me throw myself into this as well. Issue for me seemed to start with the latest Beta releases (5768 line). At any rate I can watch a slow but continual rise in memory on my server even at full idle until it eventually throws an out of memory exception and crashes (which is on at least a daily basis sometimes more than once a day). I've verified it resolves by removing the ServerWMC plugin from the server but this isn't a good workaround for me as I act like a private cable supplier for some family members. My current setup is running server 5768.6 on a 32 core machine with 128GB of memory. Server 2k8 Enterprise X64, and ServerWMC as the TV backend. I do not use the channelsdirect service. I have 8 tuners that feed into Emby Server through Server WMC all Ceton's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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