roberthleeii 58 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is anyone here actually getting this to work? Mine is still creating the thumbnails but when I try to test it on a movie that has the bif file made it does not work on the roku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediacowboy 438 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I don't think the feature is in the current public client yet. I believe it is on the beta and waiting approval from roku. @@Luke correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonian 1 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Just did another run of 1hr 20 and no new files found in my search... Have some chores to do so will let it run for a few hours and check again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebull32 17 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is anyone here actually getting this to work? Mine is still creating the thumbnails but when I try to test it on a movie that has the bif file made it does not work on the roku. Yes, I see what you mean. The way the plugin is right now, the roku will not show the thumbnails. The Server plugin is putting the .bif files in the same folder with the video, but then looking for them in the metadata folder when the roku app requests it. I can submit a fix for this at GitHub, but there are a few different options, and I don't know what Luke wants to do: 1) Plugin places .bif in metadata folder when it's created. 2) .bif gets copied or moved at some point, so it will be in the correct spot when Roku asks for it. 3) Server (via plugin) gets it from the folder where the video resides, instead of the metadata folder. I prefer option 3 myself, I have tested this option locally and this works, but any of these should be doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonian 1 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Update: At 6 hours just checked and progressed to 157, (240) BIF files (no 360), at roughly 13 hours, going to be a long haul for my smallish collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koleckai Silvestri 1150 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Uninstalled the plugin myself. I let it run for three days at 100% CPU Utilization. It was at 20%. Might run it again once I get my new file server online. Edited February 16, 2015 by Koleckai Silvestri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Is anyone here actually getting this to work? Mine is still creating the thumbnails but when I try to test it on a movie that has the bif file made it does not work on the roku.Working for me...360 bifs..in metadata folder..using dev server and beta roku.Configured to index as part of scan. Would like tv next up prioritised..eg if i start watching a show. At 2 months estimated completion timeframe..there is an opportunity for the plugins prioritisation algorithms to make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Yeah I got to 1% ish after 24hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I added a movie..confirmed the log entry for successful generation of bif..but did not get them showing up on roku. Next time i add a movie ill check again. But i havent had an issue with tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansblackcat 37 Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 I'm only seeing .bif files created for .MKV and .MP4 files, nothing for .AVI. Is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36997 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yes. The roku will only use the bif when direct streaming, so the plugin is skipping over video files that it think will have to be transcoded. that's why the plugin has the bitrate and audio setting as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienBard 54 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 I honestly am not entirely certain what the heck is going on at this point. Last night, at about 45 hours in, I was very near completion. I checked back later at about 47.5 hours and instead of being "done" I was suddenly at 2.6%. Now 13 hours and change later, I'm up to 53.0% again. I have no idea why it decided to just keep going after reaching 100%, or why it would need to keep going. As it is, pass through the collection, while still taking quite a while, is going about twice as fast. Still, it's taking forever, and if it is actually able to complete again, that will be it, whether it tries to do another pass or not. Once it gets to 100% again, I'll be stopping it, even if it isn't picking up where I left off if I restart it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonian 1 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) I had an update this morning for the plugin, I restarted the server to complete the update, it seemed to progress faster after that ... I think I should learn to read and interpret better as I had to redo my scan due to the 240 bif file not showing on my wide screen display, 320 for me, live and learn ... 12 hours in I'm at 15% ... It's not overwriting the 240 files this time ... About 25 movies per hour ... Edited February 18, 2015 by kingstonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebull32 17 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 With the latest thumbnail plugin update that they pushed out over the weekend, everyone should be seeing thumbnails in their Roku for all videos with .bif files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 With the latest thumbnail plugin update that they pushed out over the weekend, everyone should be seeing thumbnails in their Roku for all videos with .bif files.Does this.comment supercede luke's...transcoded media should also support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienBard 54 Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Well, phooey. The plugin ran taking 1 day 23 hours 3 minutes and 30 seconds. Then, for whatever reason, it decided it was going to run again, and I allowed it to. After a little over 14 hours, I needed to turn off the machine because the local power company was having issues. I stopped the process. Now, when I search for .bif files, I have a very small handful attached to some of my television shows, but none in an other directory. It seems all of the work done in that nearly 2 days was erased when the plugin decided to run again. This is getting frustrating to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36997 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think you just have a server that is not up to the task for this, and at some point you might just have to accept that so you can stop being frustrated by it. I think that's just as far as it's gotten in this amount of time. Maybe your server was working so hard it blew your neighborhood's power line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saitoh183 137 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think you just have a server that is not up to the task for this, and at some point you might just have to accept that so you can stop being frustrated by it. I think that's just as far as it's gotten in this amount of time. Maybe your server was working so hard it blew your neighborhood's power line I think he saying that the process finished after that time and all was done and that when it ran again, it overwrote...but i could be wrong on interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebull32 17 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Does this.comment supercede luke's...transcoded media should also support? No. As far as I know, this will not happen for transcoded any time soon. I think it's part of the roku specification that the thumbnails get displayed for direct play only. I know some people were having trouble with the direct play videos too, but that should be resolved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 No. As far as I know, this will not happen for transcoded any time soon. I think it's part of the roku specification that the thumbnails get displayed for direct play only. I know some people were having trouble with the direct play videos too, but that should be resolved.There was a time when we would see video copy/untranscoded...audio transcoded...would this support bifs...and is it still available as a play mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2492 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 yeah i'm trying this. this is not a complaint, but it is incredibly slow. its going along at about 1% a day on my library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienBard 54 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 I think he saying that the process finished after that time and all was done and that when it ran again, it overwrote...but i could be wrong on interpretation Pretty much. Now the process is "done" according to the plugin. When I tr running it now, the process takes about 40 seconds to scan through and report that it is done. When I go through and look for .bif files though, only about 8 movies actually have them. It looks like the television folder was completed, but not any of the others. However, the movie folder was not left 100% untouched, so it knows to be looking at that folder. I'm pretty much giving up on it for now. I'm pretty sure my machine is hardy enough to handle the job, but I'm losing patience trying to figure out where m problem area is. M brother watcher mostly television shows anywa, so he'll at least see some benefit from what I have managed to get to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjaninja 533 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Since luke re clarified how it should work.... namely BIF only display on untranscoded content The options (Bitrate and Output Mode) define the highest supported direct play media (no point creating bif files for files which will be transcoded and thus theirs bifs not show) I am confident the plugin is working for me...(im on latest dev server build and beta roku client) Are the 8 movies that have bif files <=your max streaming bit rate setting, <= your audio output mode..whilst the others are greater than those settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienBard 54 Posted February 21, 2015 Author Share Posted February 21, 2015 Since luke re clarified how it should work.... namely BIF only display on untranscoded content The options (Bitrate and Output Mode) define the highest supported direct play media (no point creating bif files for files which will be transcoded and thus theirs bifs not show) I am confident the plugin is working for me...(im on latest dev server build and beta roku client) Are the 8 movies that have bif files <=your max streaming bit rate setting, <= your audio output mode..whilst the others are greater than those settings? Every episode and movie is saved to the server in the same manner using mkv containers with whatever the highest audio quality on the disc was. I've just set Roku aside for now and am going to resume trying to help with stress testing the Windows 8.1 app. Both it and the Samsung app are used b the majority of the household, the Roku onl by one person, and the .bif files have nothing to do with his ability to actually watch something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saitoh183 137 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 @@Luke Is it normal that my Collection primary images got changed? Now i have to go and change them all back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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