H1000 5 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) I'm getting behaviour with a series recording with a single excluded episode (set to do not record this episode) is forgotten when the emby guide refreshes, daily (so it ends up recording it anyway!) Also, if you specify a single program to record using the guide 'record' (not record series, just record) it forgets when the guide refreshes, daily It shows a correct schedule right until the minute after the guide update scheduled task. Then all excluded and extra single episodes are reverted/forgotten! I mainly use 'Keyword type: Title' for series recordings (and hand picked channels), but affects all types of series (keywords added by me, manually set in the guide & series linked in the guide). When I try and 'record' a single non series episode it will be reverted without fail, doesn't matter what channel I pick, time or name. I had a look at the log and it seems to remove each channels program data before re-adding it (and I'm assuming this is where the single episode customisations are lost!) not sure if this is standard behaviour. Guide data set to 14 days, update task occurs daily at 8am, done the usual reboots and standard diagnosing - no luck. Also tried with slightly different emby 'guide data source', same issue. Any clues or hints appreciated - not sure what is going on or how to troubleshoot further Dexter (full debug log file attached) 2025-01-08 08:00:01.084 Info SecurityManager: Registered for livetv-plugin 2025-01-08 08:00:01.802 Info LiveTvManager: Refreshing guide with 14 days of guide data 2025-01-08 08:00:01.808 Info LiveTvService: [NextPvr] Start GetPrograms Async, retrieve all Programs 2025-01-08 08:00:01.808 Info LiveTvService: Channel EPG: DVB/ATSC EPG 2025-01-08 08:00:01.808 Info HttpClient: GET http://localhost:8866/service?method=channel.listings&sid=d14766e6bb8d450a94a68960b5bcac86&start=1736319601&end=1737529201&channel_id=7148 2025-01-08 08:00:01.876 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC ONE Lon has 0 programs. 192 are updated. 2025-01-08 08:00:02.087 Info SqliteItemRepository: Removing 191 old programs from channel 3907833 BBC ONE Lon embyserver-63871964100 (1).txt Edited January 9 by H1000 forgot to add my name
Abobader 3275 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Hello H1000, ** This is an auto reply ** Please wait for someone from staff support or our members to reply to you. It's recommended to provide more info, as it explain in this thread: Thank you. Emby Team
Luke 38955 Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Hi there, can you please provide a specific example? Thanks !
H1000 5 Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 (edited) Hi Luke There is a newer log file attached for this morning's forgotten changes, listed below... The schedule was meant to record this program "FA Cup: Aston Villa v West Ham" as a single, one off recording on the 10th January, 19:30. This recording was set as a single item, not part of any series. Lost after the guide update at 8am. Additionally this program "Jewish Voice" scheduled for 2am 10th January re-appeared after previously being told to not record this particular episode from that series. Guessing here, but could is be something to do with the task called "Queueing task RefreshChannelsScheduledTask" that is meant to run after "DailyTrigger fired for task: Refresh Guide" that doesn't actually run? Well I cant find a second mention of "RefreshChannelsScheduledTask" within the logs after the "Refresh Guide" task ends. Thanks, -Dexter embyserver (7).txt Edited January 9 by H1000 minor typo
sa2000 284 Posted January 13 Posted January 13 (edited) Wondering if this is a NextPVR plugin issue. Are you able to test Live TV DVR without using this plugin? I see an error logged on every guide refresh start, e.g. 2025-01-09 08:00:00.014 Debug TaskManager: Scheduled task Refresh Guide will run with a time limit of 60 minutes 2025-01-09 08:00:00.247 Error LiveTvManager: Error getting channels *** Error Report *** Version: 4.8.10.0 Command line: C:\Users\Television\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system\EmbyServer.dll Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10.0.22631 Framework: .NET 6.0.33 OS/Process: x64/x64 Runtime: C:/Users/Television/AppData/Roaming/Emby-Server/system/System.Private.CoreLib.dll Processor count: 16 Data path: C:\Users\Television\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\programdata Application path: C:\Users\Television\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\system System.NullReferenceException: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at Emby.LiveTV.LiveTvManager.RefreshEmbyChannelsInternal(IProgress`1 progress, CancellationToken cancellationToken) Source: Emby.LiveTV TargetSite: Void MoveNext() and all guide refresh is finding 0 programs from NextPVR - I presume that is what is running on port 8866 and all these channels had 0 programs returned during the refresh - requesting programs for January 9, 2025 07:00:02 AM to January 23, 2025 07:00:02 AM UTC 2025-01-09 08:00:02.480 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC ONE Lon has 0 programs. 193 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:02.758 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC TWO has 0 programs. 179 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:04.121 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel London Live has 0 programs. 164 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:04.237 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC FOUR has 0 programs. 82 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:05.152 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel QVC has 0 programs. 182 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:05.551 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Dave has 0 programs. 212 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:05.675 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Drama has 0 programs. 175 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:05.970 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel TJC has 0 programs. 185 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:06.048 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC THREE has 0 programs. 145 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:06.248 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel W has 0 programs. 181 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:06.503 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Yesterday has 0 programs. 176 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:08.030 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel QVC2 has 0 programs. 184 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:09.179 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Gems TV has 0 programs. 185 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:09.906 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Ideal World has 0 programs. 185 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:10.473 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Dave ja vu has 0 programs. 210 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:10.624 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ITV3+1 has 0 programs. 15 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:10.649 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Drama +1 has 0 programs. 175 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:11.363 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Blaze has 0 programs. 249 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:11.633 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel TBN UK has 0 programs. 305 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:13.360 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel That's 60s has 0 programs. 29 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:13.381 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Jewellery Maker has 0 programs. 63 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:13.422 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel HobbyMaker has 0 programs. 166 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:13.590 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Yesterday+1 has 0 programs. 0 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:13.598 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel That's 90s has 0 programs. 67 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:14.633 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel EarthxTV has 0 programs. 0 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:14.641 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Blaze+1 has 0 programs. 39 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:14.978 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel PBS America has 0 programs. 103 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:15.248 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Shop On TV has 0 programs. 167 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:15.586 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel WildEarth has 0 programs. 100 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:15.639 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ITV4+1 has 0 programs. 15 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:15.662 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC ONE Lon HD has 0 programs. 193 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:15.904 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC TWO HD has 0 programs. 179 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:16.597 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC FOUR HD has 0 programs. 82 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:16.666 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC THREE HD has 0 programs. 145 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:17.359 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel CBBC has 0 programs. 385 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:19.542 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel CBeebies has 0 programs. 603 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:22.347 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel CBBC HD has 0 programs. 386 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:23.498 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel CBeebies HD has 0 programs. 603 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:23.780 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel POP has 0 programs. 631 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:24.460 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC NEWS has 0 programs. 340 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:24.569 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Parliament has 0 programs. 99 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:24.781 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Sky News has 0 programs. 326 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:25.149 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel GB News has 0 programs. 105 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:25.687 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Red Button has 0 programs. 39 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:25.791 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC RB 1 has 0 programs. 127 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:27.057 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ADULT Xpanded TV has 0 programs. 23 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:27.076 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ADULT smileTV3 has 0 programs. 79 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:27.112 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ADULT Babestn has 0 programs. 15 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.183 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel ADULT Section has 0 programs. 0 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.195 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio 1 has 0 programs. 143 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.295 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC R1X has 0 programs. 128 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.419 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio 2 has 0 programs. 106 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.469 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio 3 has 0 programs. 93 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.528 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio 4 has 0 programs. 317 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.817 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC R5L has 0 programs. 84 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.878 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC R5SX has 0 programs. 50 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:31.924 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC 6 Music has 0 programs. 116 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:32.096 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio 4 Ex has 0 programs. 363 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:32.373 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Asian Net. has 0 programs. 139 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:32.479 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC World Sv. has 0 programs. 572 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.400 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Smooth Radio has 0 programs. 61 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.429 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Berkshire has 0 programs. 56 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.578 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Three Counties has 0 programs. 61 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.620 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Radio London has 0 programs. 59 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.665 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Surrey has 0 programs. 58 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.723 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel talkSPORT has 0 programs. 62 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.854 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Capital has 0 programs. 61 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:35.894 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Premier Radio has 0 programs. 197 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.023 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Heart has 0 programs. 61 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.153 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel RNIB Connect has 0 programs. 134 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.207 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Classic FM has 0 programs. 79 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.246 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel LBC has 0 programs. 70 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.281 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel Trans World Radio has 0 programs. 91 are updated. 2025-01-09 08:00:36.420 Debug LiveTvManager: Channel BBC Essex has 0 programs. 60 are updated. Edited January 13 by sa2000
H1000 5 Posted January 14 Author Posted January 14 Thanks sa2000 for the suggestion I removed the NextPVR plugin but after the mandatory server restart it dropped all channels from my liveTV area, including programs. I reverted emby using a backup shortly after I'm not having a issue with viewing live tv or any live tv related problems. its solely the guide data forgetting exact single episode recordings after a guide refresh. They appear correctly in the schedule tab but then disappear after the guide update
Luke 38955 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Quote I removed the NextPVR plugin but after the mandatory server restart it dropped all channels from my liveTV area, including programs. Hi, this is normal. You knew this would happen, right? I think what he's asking you to try is adding the TV source directly to Emby without using Next PVR. 1
H1000 5 Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 Getting a licence for winTV 10, but the hauppauge team don't issue licences out of hours in 2025. Will give it a go on the weekend and get back to you. 2
H1000 5 Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 I have changed my tuner to use Hauppauge rather than NextPVR. Although the tuner and channel numbers remain identical the data must have been replaced when the tuner configuration was updated - now my schedule is all blank although the series data is present. Looks like the custom channel selections have been cleared (or lost) even if the names and numbers remained identical (see picture below) Furthermore, editing seriestimers.json file while emby was shutdown and manually refreshing the guide data has no effect. It appears that the data is read from elsewhere (although the file is being modified). Is there a known way to make emby read from seriestimers.json, or batch edit and apply the channel selection I require? Even if its to set all the series to record all channels I'm assuming its now done in some sort of internal database
sa2000 284 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 15 minutes ago, H1000 said: I have changed my tuner to use Hauppauge rather than NextPVR. Although the tuner and channel numbers remain identical the data must have been replaced when the tuner configuration was updated - now my schedule is all blank although the series data is present. The test was intended to be for a new setup with the tuner to see if you create new recordings schedules - if they get lost daily as you had happen with the NextPVR configuration So a new setup with the tuner, scheduling new series recordings and then seeing if they get lost after a guide refresh
H1000 5 Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 Sure, is there a easy way to clear off the entirety of the series system & start from scratch? I have over 60 series set to record
sa2000 284 Posted January 19 Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, H1000 said: Sure, is there a easy way to clear off the entirety of the series system & start from scratch? I have over 60 series set to record The test would be just for new non series simgle episode recordings to see if they get lost after a refresh - which i understand what was happening with your NextPVR setup With regards to losing the schedules for episodes relating to series recording, I have come across one case of it happening after a temporary interuption of Emby Premiere subscription where it lapsed but was re-instated a few days later. After doing the tests and establish if your issue is specifically to do with NextPVR, it looks like you may need to recreate the series scjedules. As far as i know the series schdules are defined in the data/livetv/seriestimers.json file and invidual airings in the timers.json
H1000 5 Posted January 19 Author Posted January 19 Ignore my last message, my formatting on seriestimers was wrong so it didn't really apply any changes. I have managed to get the recording schedule to look correct with the new tuner configuration - will await a guide refresh tomorrow and see if things have improved. I did notice that the timers.json file goes back several years and is quite big (almost 2MB). It correctly shows the upcoming series recordings for the next few days There might be a chance this file is corrupt in some way where the recordings are skipped (or put back in?) because of some past episode numbering? Huge guess but will experiment later after the most recent change (next PVR to Happapague winTV 10) is fully tested. Thanks! 1
Solution H1000 5 Posted January 26 Author Solution Posted January 26 Solved For those who encounter the same strange problem it was fixed by using the Hauppauge winTV 10 system as suggested (Rather than NextPVR) I'm not certain what exactly sorted it out, but in the process of having to remake all the scheduled recordings, re-tuning the channels, updating the drivers it eventually behaves as expected. I'm using a DVB-T2 quad tuner card Thanks for everyone's suggestions! 2
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