Movie naming and articles a, an, & the

[chops3246 4]

I'm aware of the document for emby movie naming in general (e.g. https://github.com/EmbySupport/Emby.Docs/blob/master/Movie-Naming.md/).

However, I was hoping for a point of clarity on Movie names where an article is the first part of the title (a, an, or the).

Example: I have only about 260 movies and 30 start with "the" but I don't think of "The Terminator" or "The Butterfly Effect". I think "Terminator" or "Butterfly Effect" when browsing my library. 

I had tried swapping the article to the end (they way books might be organized) - like "Terminator, The" or similar. However last time I tried this on a title it was not matched to the proper metadata when I did a metadata refresh or file scan. Just wondering if there's a feature to this kind of organization that I'm missing (as most everything else I can think of related to naming is covered in the emby doc).

[Happy2Play 9355]

Emby by default already ignores these articles and sorts accordingly. 

  <SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
    <string>das</string>
    <string>der</string>
    <string>el</string>
    <string>la</string>
  </SortRemoveWords>

 

[chops3246 4]

14 minutes ago, Happy2Play said:

Emby by default already ignores these articles and sorts accordingly. 

  <SortRemoveWords>
    <string>the</string>
    <string>a</string>
    <string>an</string>
    <string>das</string>
    <string>der</string>
    <string>el</string>
    <string>la</string>
  </SortRemoveWords>

 

OK that's interesting - can you point to where this configuration or documentation is? Is this just in source code for base config or similar?

My question does relate to file names and linking up with proper metadata (without having to tag each movie with a tmdbid or similar).

Edited April 14, 2024 by chops3246

[Happy2Play 9355]

It is in the system.xml in the programdata\config folder not documented that I know of there are a few topics out there but by default Emby will ignore these articles and sort accordingly.  Naming/Structure are irrelevant.

Edited April 14, 2024 by Happy2Play

[Luke 39654]

HI, can you give a full file name example of something that didn't match? Thanks.

[chops3246 4]

I think this was when I was originally working with The Book of Eli (2009). I recall playing with metadata on this one after having the image for it being something silly (not a movie poster/cover). Since then I had removed and re-added this movie and metadata, so I'm not sure the issue is happening or could happen in the same way now.

After poking around some more, I see there's actually a sort title in metadata for each movie which handles the book of eli case perfectly ("the" is scrubbed from the beginning).

Thus, The Book of Eli shows up next to other titles in emby like Brave, Bloodshot, and The Boondock Saints - just like you'd expect with skipping articles.

So I think this case is a misnomer or was related to some other metadata artifact issue I was working to solve earlier.

This doesn't solve my file naming convention at this point (since I have a ton of movie files that start with "The "). But that's not a huge deal since I can find them on emby in a snap.

[chops3246 4]

Made a post here that was supposed to be on another forum thread - whoops!

 

Edited May 3, 2024 by chops3246

[Luke 39654]

2 hours ago, chops3246 said:

I think this was when I was originally working with The Book of Eli (2009). I recall playing with metadata on this one after having the image for it being something silly (not a movie poster/cover). Since then I had removed and re-added this movie and metadata, so I'm not sure the issue is happening or could happen in the same way now.

After poking around some more, I see there's actually a sort title in metadata for each movie which handles the book of eli case perfectly ("the" is scrubbed from the beginning).

Thus, The Book of Eli shows up next to other titles in emby like Brave, Bloodshot, and The Boondock Saints - just like you'd expect with skipping articles.

So I think this case is a misnomer or was related to some other metadata artifact issue I was working to solve earlier.

This doesn't solve my file naming convention at this point (since I have a ton of movie files that start with "The "). But that's not a huge deal since I can find them on emby in a snap.

Hi, if you have pre-existing nfo files created by other software, then it's possible that they contain specific sort title values. When this is the case, Emby will read and use those instead of generating one.