Mookdog 89 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Hey Guys I am having a problem on 2 seperate remote systems 1 pc and 1 shield 2019 pro. After about 10 seconds the video freezes and crashes kodi. I dont know what the issues could be Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Kodi crashing is not something the addon can do normally, i mean even if the addon crashes it should not case kodi to crash. For kodi to crash on playback kodi is having problems with the video stream from the emby server. Is this with all items you play or just one particular item? You can try forcing a transcode playback from the context menu, pick a really low bitrate to make sure it is going to have transcode the video, if this plays then it is something weird in the source media files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TeamB said: Kodi crashing is not something the addon can do normally, i mean even if the addon crashes it should not case kodi to crash. For kodi to crash on playback kodi is having problems with the video stream from the emby server. Is this with all items you play or just one particular item? You can try forcing a transcode playback from the context menu, pick a really low bitrate to make sure it is going to have transcode the video, if this plays then it is something weird in the source media files. But it did it on 2 fresh installs 1 on shield 2019 and a PC both did the same thing. It freezes up Kodi on both Locally it works fine but remotely it freezes after about 8-10 seconds of plalying Mook Edited August 9, 2022 by Mookdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 sounds like a network issue, that is one of the reason I said try a force transcode and pick a very low bitrate, this will help you track down the issue. Crashes or Freezes kodi, they are very different things. crashing could be a bug in kodi, freezing might just be network io blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TeamB said: sounds like a network issue, that is one of the reason I said try a force transcode and pick a very low bitrate, this will help you track down the issue. Crashes or Freezes kodi, they are very different things. crashing could be a bug in kodi, freezing might just be network io blocking. Ok on the network what will I be looking for ? I installed embycon on my uncles pc bc he loves kodi bc the volume amplfier (Yeah hes old and very tinny eared lol) Now my buddy who lives in a different state tried running it on his network and it did the same thing and that was on a shield. I am kinda at a loss for words on what could be causing it. Emby for Android TV works fine but embycon not so swell remotely. Wish I could get my 73 year old uncle to invest in an android setup but he is set in his ways lol Update : Force transcoding the stream played fine at its normal bitrate. Why would that be ? Mook Edited August 10, 2022 by Mookdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 It could be all network related but debugging this sort of thing remotely is hard. There are a few things you can try, as I mentioned to force transcode, this will help answer the question if it is a bandwidth issue or not. The other thing you can play with is Kodi streaming video cache: https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache This can help with slow or bursty network setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, TeamB said: It could be all network related but debugging this sort of thing remotely is hard. There are a few things you can try, as I mentioned to force transcode, this will help answer the question if it is a bandwidth issue or not. The other thing you can play with is Kodi streaming video cache: https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Modify_the_video_cache This can help with slow or bursty network setups. Force Transcoding worked without changing bitrate its weird Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 does it have the same problem for ALL videos? if it is just a few then it could be something to do with the way they are muxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, TeamB said: does it have the same problem for ALL videos? if it is just a few then it could be something to do with the way they are muxed. All videos and tv shows. Does HEVC have something to do with it ? Mook Edited August 10, 2022 by Mookdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 sorry I dont know. the addon EmbyCon is just the middle man, it asks the server for a list of media files to play and if a user selects a media file to play EmbyCon asks the server what the streaming URL should be, it then sends this URL to Kodi for playback. EmbyCon does not actualy interact the the video stream at all, its all Kodi native that does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 45 minutes ago, TeamB said: sorry I dont know. the addon EmbyCon is just the middle man, it asks the server for a list of media files to play and if a user selects a media file to play EmbyCon asks the server what the streaming URL should be, it then sends this URL to Kodi for playback. EmbyCon does not actualy interact the the video stream at all, its all Kodi native that does that. Believe it or not Emby-nextgen works great but I like embycon lol Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) well that is weird, they should do the same thing when it comes to what URL to stream, unless next gen is forcing transcode and thus side stepping the issue you are seeing with EmbyCon. You can check this in the Server Dashboard. Both plugins should be calling /PlaybackInfo and in the responce get the URL the server builds for the client and then just pass that url to Kodi for playback. Edited August 10, 2022 by TeamB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) You could try this https://emby.media/community/index.php?/topic/104799-shield-experience-upgrade-900-and-emby-for-kodi-next-gen/page/2/#comment-1107411 Read the thread for the background. Edited August 10, 2022 by TeamB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickmic 1341 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Mookdog said: Believe it or not Emby-nextgen works great but I like embycon lol Mook Well, form my understanding there are two possible explanations. First, you used native mode in next-gen. Second, you disabled http/2 in next gen. As TeamB mentioned, review the "shield" thread and try disable http/2 via advancedsettings.xml. As far as I know, this is the core issue for shield users. From technical point of view, there is no reason why embycon shouldn't work, if next gen works in addon mode. Edited August 10, 2022 by quickmic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 10, 2022 Author Share Posted August 10, 2022 3 hours ago, quickmic said: Well, form my understanding there are two possible explanations. First, you used native mode in next-gen. Second, you disabled http/2 in next gen. As TeamB mentioned, review the "shield" thread and try disable http/2 via advancedsettings.xml. As far as I know, this is the core issue for shield users. From technical point of view, there is no reason why embycon shouldn't work, if next gen works in addon mode. That worked like a charm thank u guys so much for that helpful information. Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamB 2352 Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 5 hours ago, quickmic said: First, you used native mode in next-gen. Is that the mode where you jam the actual path directly in the kodi db? If so i dont think that is the case here as he is having issues with remote machines and they can not use direct path at all. 1 hour ago, Mookdog said: That worked like a charm thank u guys so much for that helpful information. So it was the http/2 advanced setting that fixed it? i thought that might be a long shot as you mentioned you were having the same issue on both shield and pc and i did not think pc had this http/2 problem. Perhaps this issue is more wide spread than i thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookdog 89 Posted August 11, 2022 Author Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 hours ago, TeamB said: Is that the mode where you jam the actual path directly in the kodi db? If so i dont think that is the case here as he is having issues with remote machines and they can not use direct path at all. So it was the http/2 advanced setting that fixed it? i thought that might be a long shot as you mentioned you were having the same issue on both shield and pc and i did not think pc had this http/2 problem. Perhaps this issue is more wide spread than i thought. It worked on shield. I will try my uncles pc tomorrow Mook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anontv 0 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 my kodi crashes 50% of the time when using from widget. i tried different skins and clean setups and still always same results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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