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[anonyms 2]

I'm planning to buy snology, any suggestions which is best model for emby server and transcoding 

[anonyms 2]

11 minutes ago, anonyms said:

I'm planning to buy snology, any suggestions which is best model for emby server and transcoding 

@Luke

[FrostByte 5049]

If you're going to transcode make sure you get something with an Intel and gpu so that you can use vaapi

[FrostByte 5049]

Something like the DS920+ will have a gpu for hardware assisted transcoding

DS920+ | Synology Inc.

Intel Celeron Processor J4125 4M Cache up to 2.70 GHz Product Specifications

[anonyms 2]

I was planning for ds920+ but it is old model @FrostByte

[FrostByte 5049]

However, the two 2022 models out so far both have Ryzen cpus which you won't want if you do a lot of transcoding.

They typically renew models every 2 years (DS918+, DS920+, etc).  It's possible there will be a DS922+, but I haven't seen anything about it yet.

[heffeque 39]

Covid and chip shortage changed a lot of plans.

If anything, there might be a 923+, but who knows if it will have a GPU or not.

Personally I have a 2nd hand 918+ and it's working great (with R/W SSD cache and more RAM, which help a lot).

[Audiomixer 328]

I have both the 918+ and the 920+ going in two locations. Both solid units. Would not hesitate to buy the 920+ again.

[DJX 18]

I have a ds920 and its proving great so far if you have emby premiere to take advantage of hardware

[DonMacaroni 24]

Why worry, I bought “old” 1520+ lately, because it still has GPU to swap out my DS1019+

If 920+ does everything you need, I would not worry much about getting “latest and greatest”. Get the tool, what does best what you need and be happy with your choice… 

Edited July 22, 2022 by DonMacaroni

[mike3821 61]

How many transcode connections can you have?

I'm debating on moving this over from my ESXI host so I can stop getting complaints when I reboot my server.

I have around 20+ people, but only ever see 3-6 concurrent connections.

Edited August 5, 2022 by mike3821

[DonMacaroni 24]

I have a small family, 2-3 seems to be fine on DS1520+, never needed more than that so I cannot say what would be the max. But judging the CPU load, I would say not much over 4…when using HW transcoding. Software transcoding is out of the question, not enough CPU power,

It really depends on source material, it’s codec, resolution, is tonemapping needed, etc. Also what resolution you want to encode to, for example it really struggles with single 4K HEVC with tonemapping to 4K AVC, at the same time 4K HEVC with tonemapping to 15Mbps 1080p AVC it can do 3 streams in parallel without an issue.

Edited August 10, 2022 by DonMacaroni

[heffeque 39]

53 minutes ago, DonMacaroni said:

I have a small family, 2-3 seems to be fine on DS1520+, never needed more than that so I cannot say what would be the max. But judging the CPU load, I would say not much over 4…when using HW transcoding. Software transcoding is out of the question, not enough CPU power,

It really depends on source material, it’s codec, resolution, is tonemapping needed, etc. Also what resolution you want to encode to, for example it really struggles with single 4K HEVC with tonemapping to 4K AVC, at the same time 4K HEVC with tonemapping to 15Mbps 1080p AVC it can do 3 streams in parallel without an issue.

Personally... 99% of times I'm doing DirectPlay. Be it PC, be it tablet, be it TV... Not sure how people manage to need transcoding (HW or SW).

[unisoft 272]

On 22/07/2022 at 19:42, DonMacaroni said:

Why worry, I bought “old” 1520+ lately, because it still has GPU to swap out my DS1019+

If 920+ does everything you need, I would not worry much about getting “latest and greatest”. Get the tool, what does best what you need and be happy with your choice… 

Getting the latest models ensures a longer support lifecycle for security updates. Buying a model that will soon be end of sale means less years of functional and security updates in the future as the clock was ticking on the lifecycle from initial release of that model. I've found that QNAP and Synology typically have around 10 years of security updates (some of those years include free major updates and the latter years are discretional security updates if deemed important enough by them).

[Spaceboy 2493]

as long as you're not exposing your NAS to external access from the internet then i wouldnt worry too much about that. my ds3612xs has just hit the 10 year mark and despite not getting dsm 7 is still rocking along nicely just providing file server storage - 220Tb of storage

[heffeque 39]

1 hour ago, Spaceboy said:

as long as you're not exposing your NAS to external access from the internet then i wouldnt worry too much about that. my ds3612xs has just hit the 10 year mark and despite not getting dsm 7 is still rocking along nicely just providing file server storage - 220Tb of storage

Having external access to Emby is something that a lot of us actually want and use, so... I guess sometimes it's a bit inevitable.

[DJX 18]

5 minutes ago, heffeque said:

Having external access to Emby is something that a lot of us actually want and use, so... I guess sometimes it's a bit inevitable.

I have external users accessing via VPN directly to my NAS, they then use emby using the local IP. So depends on clients, but just showing there is no need to have the whole NAS accessible or even Emby port

[heffeque 39]

I understand that there are different possibilites, though it's not possible to configure VPNs on most TVs (if any), etc. It's not always an option.

[Spaceboy 2493]

well i definitely wouldnt try running emby on a synology thats older than a couple of years. it'll be quite a poor experience all round

[Luke 37050]

2 minutes ago, Spaceboy said:

well i definitely wouldnt try running emby on a synology thats older than a couple of years. it'll be quite a poor experience all round

I don't think that's true. We have some older models on hand for testing and it runs quite well. You just have to be aware of what it can handle and try and avoid transcoding that it might not be suited for.

[heffeque 39]

Yup. As commented before, my DS918+ runs Emby on DSM 7.1 very well (interface and videos), so I'm quite happy!

Edit: if it helps, (adding to the R/W SSD cache and more RAM already mentioned) I additionally set the database to 1024 and its yet a bit snappier.

Edited August 16, 2022 by heffeque

[Spaceboy 2493]

3 hours ago, Luke said:

I don't think that's true. We have some older models on hand for testing and it runs quite well. You just have to be aware of what it can handle and try and avoid transcoding that it might not be suited for.

well its my experience

[heffeque 39]

Your experience is with a 10 year old Synology. Rest assured that if it has a fairly recent version of QuickSync and you stick to media that is supported by it (here), even transcoding should be a fairly good experience.

Edit: also, I see that your Synology has no support for SSD cache, which helps quite a bit with the interface, though you could try the "1024" database config. That might help you getting a better experience.

Edited August 16, 2022 by heffeque

[Spaceboy 2493]

10 minutes ago, heffeque said:

Your experience is with a 10 year old Synology. Rest assured that if it has a fairly recent version of QuickSync and you stick to media that is supported by it ( here ), even transcoding should be a fairly good experience.

Edit: also, I see that your Synology has no support for SSD cache, which helps quite a bit with the interface.

i've got two. but thanks for your interest

[unisoft 272]

10 hours ago, heffeque said:

Your experience is with a 10 year old Synology. Rest assured that if it has a fairly recent version of QuickSync and you stick to media that is supported by it (here), even transcoding should be a fairly good experience.

Edit: also, I see that your Synology has no support for SSD cache, which helps quite a bit with the interface, though you could try the "1024" database config. That might help you getting a better experience.

I wouldn't recommend over 512 on older Synology devices as found this caused home screen delay. I had added more memory to mine. I have a 12 bay DS2415+. About 6 years old. That's what I found when I was testing the ideal setting out...Could be different on different models.