PoBear 19 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Hi I have a Hauppage Win-TV DualHD tuner attached to my Emby Server machine. I've had it recording the occasional programme without problem but today needed it to record several programmes at once but it is has only recorded one channel. So, as it is a dual tuner I expected it to be able to record two channels at the same time and as I record from UK Freeview it should have been able to record (on each tuner), all the channels on the same mux. Have I misunderstood what Live TV is capable of at the moment? If not, what diagnostics do you need? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Hi, we don't currently support multiple channel recordings on the same mux although it's something we are looking into. Does that answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBear 19 Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share Posted June 3, 2022 Thanks for the reply but it only partially answers the question, what about the fact it has two tuners but is only recording on one? I note someone else has reported an issue with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 7 hours ago, PoBear said: Thanks for the reply but it only partially answers the question, what about the fact it has two tuners but is only recording on one? I note someone else has reported an issue with this. What do you mean exactly? Can you please provide an example? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBear 19 Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 The Hauppage Win-TV DualHD tuner has two DVB-T2 tuners and should (ignoring the Mux issue) be able to record two TV streams at the same time, however, it only appears to be recording on one tuner. I've just done a quick test to record two programmes at the same time. on different Mux's so both tuners would need to be used, only one has recorded, the second that I set up the other has not recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Quote I've just done a quick test to record two programmes at the same time. on different Mux's so both tuners would need to be used, only one has recorded, the second that I set up the other has not recorded. Can we please look at an example? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBear 19 Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 OK so I have run another test tonight, two recordings staggered this time, on different Muxes so both tuners should be used. I've taken screenshots at each stage Both programmes set to record and in scheduled recordings The first programme (The Repair Shop) has started and is being recorded. Note Premiership Rugby is still showing as pending. The second programme reaches it's start time but has now disappeared from the schedule. It was not recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 And the emby server log? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoBear 19 Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 Here you go. Search for "repair" for the programme that worked and "rugby" for the one that did not. 2022-06-05 - embyserver-63790070400.txt 2022-06-06 - embyserver-63790147099.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jliebau 0 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I have the same problem. In previous version of Emby, was able to record / watch two separate TV channels at the same time. With new server 4.7 it will only record on one. Just one of many problems I'm having with 4.7 How do I revert to previous version of Emby server? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) I'm on the latest Emby server 4.7.2.0 on Windows 10, and using the built-in Live TV with a Hauppauge WinTV dualHD tuner. Emby will consistently only use *one* of it's tuners, whenever I try to view a Live TV channel when only one tuner is busy (either recording or someone watching Live TV), Emby will give me the error message "No compatible streams are currently available. Please try again later or contact your system administrator for details.". This is what's being logged in the server log, and indeed it indicates that both tuners are in use, or at least that no tuner is available: 2022-06-13 20:12:19.207 Info LiveTvManager: Opening channel stream, external channel Id: hauppauge_1 2022-06-13 20:12:19.207 Info LiveTV: Streaming Channel hauppauge_1, with streamId: native_3296d406dcc9cb9b62aeaef99612ba6b 2022-06-13 20:12:19.208 Error LiveTV: Error in GetChannelStreamWithDirectStreamProvider *** Error Report *** Version: 4.7.2.0 Command line: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System\EmbyServer.dll -service Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10.0.19044 Framework: .NET 6.0.5 OS/Process: x64/x64 Runtime: C:/Users/media/AppData/Roaming/Emby-Server/System/System.Private.CoreLib.dll Processor count: 4 Data path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server Application path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: WinTV-dualHD simultaneous stream limit has been reached. at MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.BaseTunerHost.GetChannelStream(TunerHostInfo tuner, BaseItem dbChannnel, String tunerChannelId, String mediaSourceId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.LiveTV.EmbyTV.GetChannelStreamWithDirectStreamProvider(BaseItem dbChannel, String providerChannelId, String streamId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) Source: MediaBrowser.Controller TargetSite: Void MoveNext() 2022-06-13 20:12:19.210 Error MediaSourceManager: Error opening live stream *** Error Report *** Version: 4.7.2.0 Command line: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System\EmbyServer.dll -service Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10.0.19044 Framework: .NET 6.0.5 OS/Process: x64/x64 Runtime: C:/Users/media/AppData/Roaming/Emby-Server/System/System.Private.CoreLib.dll Processor count: 4 Data path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server Application path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: WinTV-dualHD simultaneous stream limit has been reached. at Emby.LiveTV.EmbyTV.GetChannelStreamWithDirectStreamProvider(BaseItem dbChannel, String providerChannelId, String streamId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.LiveTV.LiveTvManager.GetChannelStream(String id, String mediaSourceId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Library.MediaSourceManager.OpenLiveStreamInternal2(LiveStreamRequest request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) Source: MediaBrowser.Controller TargetSite: Void MoveNext() 2022-06-13 20:12:19.216 Error Server: Error processing request *** Error Report *** Version: 4.7.2.0 Command line: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System\EmbyServer.dll -service Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10.0.19044 Framework: .NET 6.0.5 OS/Process: x64/x64 Runtime: C:/Users/media/AppData/Roaming/Emby-Server/System/System.Private.CoreLib.dll Processor count: 4 Data path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server Application path: C:\Users\media\AppData\Roaming\Emby-Server\System MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: MediaBrowser.Controller.LiveTv.LiveTvConflictException: WinTV-dualHD simultaneous stream limit has been reached. at Emby.LiveTV.EmbyTV.GetChannelStreamWithDirectStreamProvider(BaseItem dbChannel, String providerChannelId, String streamId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.LiveTV.LiveTvManager.GetChannelStream(String id, String mediaSourceId, List`1 currentLiveStreams, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Library.MediaSourceManager.OpenLiveStreamInternal2(LiveStreamRequest request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Library.MediaSourceManager.OpenLiveStreamInternal2(LiveStreamRequest request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Library.MediaSourceManager.OpenLiveStreamInternal(LiveStreamRequest request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Library.MediaSourceManager.OpenLiveStream(LiveStreamRequest request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.MediaEncoding.Api.MediaInfoService.OpenMediaSource(OpenMediaSource request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.MediaEncoding.Api.MediaInfoService.GetPlaybackInfo(GetPostedPlaybackInfo request, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.MediaEncoding.Api.MediaInfoService.Post(GetPostedPlaybackInfo request) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Services.ServiceController.GetTaskResult(Task task) at Emby.Server.Implementations.Services.ServiceHandler.ProcessRequestAsync(HttpListenerHost appHost, IRequest httpReq, IResponse httpRes, RestPath restPath, String responseContentType, CancellationToken cancellationToken) at Emby.Server.Implementations.HttpServer.HttpListenerHost.RequestHandler(IRequest httpReq, ReadOnlyMemory`1 urlString, ReadOnlyMemory`1 localPath, CancellationToken cancellationToken) Source: MediaBrowser.Controller TargetSite: Void MoveNext() 2022-06-13 20:12:19.216 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 500 to 192.168.3.1. Time: 12ms. http://emby.punggol21.duckdns.org/emby/Items/13967504/PlaybackInfo?UserId=9d75e7c77a294c92a546324846bc3f80&StartTimeTicks=0&IsPlayback=true&AutoOpenLiveStream=true&MaxStreamingBitrate=140000000&X-Emby-Client=Emby Web&X-Emby-Device-Name=Google Chrome Windows&X-Emby-Device-Id=6cd7882f-cd77-4fb2-8f3c-84df3a3f8002&X-Emby-Client-Version=4.7.2.0&reqformat=json 2022-06-13 20:12:21.978 Info Server: http/1.1 POST http://192.168.3.105:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress?X-Emby-Client=Emby Theater&X-Emby-Device-Name=punggol21-media&X-Emby-Device-Id=punggol21-media&X-Emby-Client-Version=3.0.15&reqformat=json. UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) EmbyTheater/3.0.15 Chrome/87.0.4280.141 Electron/11.3.0 Safari/537.36 2022-06-13 20:12:21.980 Info Server: http/1.1 Response 204 to 192.168.3.150. Time: 1ms. http://192.168.3.105:8096/emby/Sessions/Playing/Progress?X-Emby-Client=Emby Theater&X-Emby-Device-Name=punggol21-media&X-Emby-Device-Id=punggol21-media&X-Emby-Client-Version=3.0.15&reqformat=json At the same time I can open WinTV and view a channel from there, and I've confirmed that the ongoing recording or Live TV program in Emby continue to stream. The second tuner is free and available for sure, and I can use it outside of Emby! Why is this happening and what can I do to get Emby to use *both* the tuners in my Hauppauge dualHD? I'm trying to migrate from Kodi to exclusivly use Emby clients, but Live TV is an essential part that we need, and so far Emby's Live TV (which is not free but a paid feature mind you) have not impressed compared with Kodi and it's PVR plugins. Edit: I am able to watch the *same* channel as is currently being recorded, I am guessing Emby is just re-using the same stream. because I can still watch another channel outside of Emby in WinTV 10, and tune to a different channel with no problem. Edited June 13, 2022 by chjohans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emveepee 112 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 You choose to upgrade to 4.7 after I warned NextPVR users that there are bugs in Live TV like this and not to upgrade. Luke and cayers were also well aware of these bugs before the release and they also knew my opinion that the Emby client was not ready to compete with Kodi for Live TV. The decision was still made to release and it didn't certainly help the release was poorly documented. Paying for Emby doesn't make it professional. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emdubya77 30 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) [deleted] Edited July 6, 2022 by emdubya77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, emveepee said: You choose to upgrade to 4.7 after I warned NextPVR users that there are bugs in Live TV like this and not to upgrade. Luke and cayers were also well aware of these bugs before the release and they also knew my opinion that the Emby client was not ready to compete with Kodi for Live TV. The decision was still made to release and it didn't certainly help the release was poorly documented. Paying for Emby doesn't make it professional. Martin I chose to upgrade after you warned? Really? It's a bit arrogant to think that should what you post at all times, and always checks your post before I upgrade, don't you think! And besides, I'm not really using NextPVR, I'm using the EMbys Hauppauge/WinTV support. Anyhow, is anything being done to fix this? @Luke? Anyone? Is there any way at all to get Emby to use both tuners in my Hauppauge dualHD USB stick? I'm open to using another TV backend server, I'm open to pay for that too, but I need things to actually work. Edited June 13, 2022 by chjohans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emveepee 112 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I announced this to all users I suppose since you were talking about using NextPVR it was a bit arrogant to assume that you read this. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, emveepee said: I announced this to all users I suppose since you were talking about using NextPVR it was a bit arrogant to assume that you read this. Martin Please scroll back up and read my post again, and slowly this time. Please let me know how may times I mentioned "NextPVR" in my original post. Zero? Exacly right, that's because I'm *not* using NextPVR with Emby but the the "native" Hauppauge/WinTV support in Emby. Jeez, I even spell it out for you in my response above but you still won't get it. You are offering no help, just an arrogant "I told you so" even when you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 is this your first time using Emby's built-in support for Hauppauge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emveepee 112 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 hour ago, chjohans said: Please scroll back up and read my post again, and slowly this time. Please let me know how may times I mentioned "NextPVR" in my original post. I don't need to read slowly you posted two threads in the NextPVR sub-forum so I was assuming you were originally using NextPVR so I hope you can understand my confusion. The fact that you complained about the Kodi loss you could not have been using native support in this thread. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 11 hours ago, emveepee said: I don't need to read slowly you posted two threads in the NextPVR sub-forum so I was assuming you were originally using NextPVR so I hope you can understand my confusion. The fact that you complained about the Kodi loss you could not have been using native support in this thread. Martin Exactly, assuming! And yes, I'm using the native support. For Kodi I've been using TV Mosaic. I do have NextPVR installed too, and I actually donated to them as well, but not using that at the moment. Evaluating my options for Live TV support in Emby, but tit seems to be at the "infant" stage even after all these years. Maybe switching back to Kodi is the best optin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Luke said: is this your first time using Emby's built-in support for Hauppauge? @Luke - Yes, but how is that relevant? How about addressing the real issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 @Luke - you asked for an example in this thread: What I've posted here is that example, see the server log and my explanation in the first post. Is this gonna be fixed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chjohans 31 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I have the exact same issue with the exact same tuner, see my post here: At the same time as Emby claims there are no tuners available, I can use the Hauppauge WinTV software to watch a live tv channel from the second tuner on the card (actually USB stick). Server log is attached in my post. @Luke - please fix this, this is as basic as bread and butter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Are you still having an issue with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambrs57 0 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 I notice that the question of getting access to previous versions of Emby was ignored @Luke. The current version of Emby can't find my Hauppauge tuner at all. Please post previous version installation files!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catso 0 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Did anyone solve the wintv dual issue of only recording on one of the tuners? Edited May 22, 2023 by catso spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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