LiquidFX 135 Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 So, I have been running my current system for some time now and decided to upgrade, well the performance has told me it's time to upgrade. A few things will just transfer over, but the heart will be a full transplant. The unit is used for picture storage and media server so no need for a massive gaming rig. This is the link to the incoming parts for the new build CLICK HERE Current Build: HTPC Information CPU Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core GPU MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC Motherboard ASUS Q87M-E/CSM DDR3 1600 LGA 1150 Memory 24GB G.Skill Ares Series 24 DDR3-2400 Storage 2xSamsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" SSD 1x6TB HGST HD 1x6TB WD HD 1X18TH SG HD Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Case nMEDIAPC Black Aluminum / Steel HTPC 2000B ATX Media Center / HTPC Case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Hi, looks like that will be a very capable system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidFX 135 Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 The current one turned in its 2-week notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4170 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 If the system is an emby server and you have the 1660 for transcoding, then I think you'll be surprised at what the Intel iGPU in the 12700K can do (Quick Sync Video) - it will certainly be able to transcode more 4k streams than the 1660 as that is memory limited (6Gb) and also do it at a fraction of the power usage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidFX 135 Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Yes, the current setup couldn't handle 4k trans at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8145 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, LiquidFX said: Yes, the current setup couldn't handle 4k trans at all. What issues did you have as the "MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC" should not have had issues. Sure from a CPU standpoint there would be issues. Edited April 19, 2022 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidFX 135 Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/19/2022 at 6:35 PM, Happy2Play said: What issues did you have as the "MSI GTX 1660 Ventus XS 6G OC" should not have had issues. Sure from a CPU standpoint there would be issues. Yeah, I didn't make sense on that last post, the CPU of the current build couldn't handle 4k, that's why I added the GPU. I don't use it for gaming, only a few emulators from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan1683 22 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) I am on the same boat with the same CPU only difference is i have a gtx 1070 I have been considering upgrading because emby seems a little sluggish at times, but I don't know why really. Just moving through the interface lags sometimes and the most I ever have is around 4 users at a time, so I feel like it might be an upgrade for nothing. Do you know how quicksync works vs cuda? My electric bill is crazy high and wouldn't mind the savings in that dept, but not sure a CPU can handle everything and that's why I added the GPU. Also why do you have so much RAM is that really necessary? What do you guys think of Xeon CPUs ? I am not really sure which direction to take the server (gaming rig vs server) don't mean to highjack, but I figured you would be interested too. Edited June 9, 2022 by Jonathan1683 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceboy 2484 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 running the OS on an nvme drive will likely give you your biggest bang for buck in terms of lag in the interface from my experience 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Droid 609 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Jonathan1683 said: I am on the same boat with the same CPU only difference is i have a gtx 1070 I have been considering upgrading because emby seems a little sluggish at times, but I don't know why really. Just moving through the interface lags sometimes and the most I ever have is around 4 users at a time, so I feel like it might be an upgrade for nothing. Do you know how quicksync works vs cuda? My electric bill is crazy high and wouldn't mind the savings in that dept, but not sure a CPU can handle everything and that's why I added the GPU. Also why do you have so much RAM is that really necessary? What do you guys think of Xeon CPUs ? I am not really sure which direction to take the server (gaming rig vs server) don't mean to highjack, but I figured you would be interested too. Which "same CPU"? If the cost of electricity is part of the equation and you want a dedicated 24/7 media server then ditch the GPU and get a recent generation (8+) Intel CPU. It's the simplest, best supported and cheapest approach in the long term. Don't bother with Xeon if your goal is to lower electric bills unless you have other heavy workloads that benefit from server grade hardware. If you plan to use the same machine as a workstation then that changes things and you have to account for that. It really doesn't take much to build a very capable box. As stated by others - fast SSD storage for the software, database, metadata, cache and transcoding. Big HDD storage for the media. A recent Intel i3 or higher can do multiple 4k transcodes and a lot of (F)HD. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan1683 22 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I have a i5-4690 and a 850 evo SSD 8GB ram I dont use the server for anything besides emby. I guess i don't need the sever CPU if a regular one can handle the workload, I just know the pc was struggling with the cpu encoding and I didnt want to freeze up the performance of the OS due to all the encoding, so i put my 1070 in the box which seemed to help a lot. Edit: I just figured out one of my hard drives is failing and it's my metadeta folder ugh I cant even copy the folder to back it up. This is probably my issue. Edited June 10, 2022 by Jonathan1683 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4170 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Jonathan1683 said: I have a i5-4690 and a 850 evo SSD 8GB ram I dont use the server for anything besides emby. I guess i don't need the sever CPU if a regular one can handle the workload, I just know the pc was struggling with the cpu encoding and I didnt want to freeze up the performance of the OS due to all the encoding, so i put my 1070 in the box which seemed to help a lot. ..and that was exactly the right thing to do. To be honest, with the hardware you have - there should be plenty of horsepower to run emby and transcode without issues. The performance issue is likely that failing HDD - but even if it wasn't - always put the emby folder and it's metadata cache/db on an SSD. A PCIe riser card with an NVME drive (as I assume that 4th Gen motherboard is not going have any NVME slots..) and emby should be ultra fast again imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan1683 22 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) Yeah you are right I'm honestly surprised I didn't have it on the SSD to begin with big mistake. Edited June 10, 2022 by Jonathan1683 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-Droid 609 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 That simple move of the latency sensitive data to SSD can make a big difference in UI and overall response time. The age of your current system limits what you can add to it and if not CPU bound upgrading the chip won't gain you much unless you find one for $20, then why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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