DarKni8 37 Posted February 22, 2022 Author Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) @LukeDo you think video level 52 might me the problem? As the same file wont work on chrome,android but will work on firefox and emby theatre. Sorry for all my questions , i want to understand was going through this thread and saw some other thread also. Also i am using s21 plus, which is not that old of a device which can't support this. Edit - i confirm i am not able to play any level 52 video. Edited February 23, 2022 by DarKni8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 It could be, yes. So your phone doesn't support that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Luke said: It could be, yes. So your phone doesn't support that? I dont want to compare man but just for information , Plex plays it , VLC etc can play the same file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Maybe emby devs need something like this in settings. This is from plex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, DarKni8 said: Maybe emby devs need something like this in settings. This is from plex Yes that would be a good idea, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Luke said: Yes that would be a good idea, I agree. I know it will take time / years, can there be workaround for this in next update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 What would that setting be for? As the server already gets the client's max level. Roku &h264-level=51 Emby Web 4.6.7.39 &h264-level=52 Don't see how they can recommend 6.0 as the majority of clients don't support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 What if its placebo and it somehow tricks in playing file directly. Also i am sure my device can handle these files. So why the limit is being set in first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DarKni8 said: What if its placebo and it somehow tricks in playing file directly. Also i am sure my device can handle these files. So why the limit is being set in first place. Maybe at a lower level as 6.0 would force transcoding of everything as it is not support in any clients that I currently own. But I would assume playback issues trying to fake settings like this. Every video player has standard limitations. Edited February 23, 2022 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Happy2Play said: Maybe at a lower level as 6.0 would force transcoding of everything as it is not support in any clients that I currently own. But I would assume playback issues trying to fake settings like this. Every video player has standard limitations. I am no expert here but i thought thats the difference between plex and emby and maybe thats the reason i am able to play it on plex, normal or transcoding but i am not able to play it on emby anyway. I just want emby to be better as it cater more to personal media center requirements but i get this kind of issues here and there daily. Sometimes 4k going all funky, sometimes subtitles not working ,some ipad glitches, 4k HDR is non playable on my ipad air 4. At present when i use emby it feels compromised everywhere. I am understanding emby's dilemma where plex is way ahead of game and at the same time competing with jellyfin which does all the things (almost) which emby does for free and is open source with lots of plugin development. I wish emby best maybe these kinds of bugs go soon as 4k, 4k HDR and 4k HDR HEVC is gonna give lots of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 (edited) To me this sounds like all the issue with Apple as they want thinks differently than all other clients. But not an Apple users and can say all my media plays on all my client so I can say the other guys can't touch Emby. Personally, 4K never leaves my LAN as my ISP traffic shaping will kill it anyways forcing transcoding not that would be issue as the HWA Tone mapping would pick up the slack. The majority of 4K media to high of bitrate to be streamed across the internet. But all media and individual setups are different and have different requirement. Edited February 23, 2022 by Happy2Play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 I just want to understand, is this problem from emby's side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 Luke , the technical architect, how is it going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) Basically, playback is not starting , same as my older threads. ffmpeg-transcode-2562c774-10de-4707-859b-867f5037217d_1.txt embyserver.txt Edited February 28, 2022 by DarKni8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Merging topics so that we can keep all relevant info in one place. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, Luke said: Merging topics so that we can keep all relevant info in one place. Thanks ! Thanks luke , i thought u ignored this , good to know u r looking into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjtech 4259 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Why not just correct the source file - as that is the real issue here. 4K 30fps should be level 5.1 4K 60fps is level 5.2 Level 6 is for 8K media ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Video_Coding#Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 Then why does the same file work on web app on firefox? Why does the same file work on emby theatre? Issue is not the file here good sir, its in how emby is handling it! Maybe this is an exception which was overlooked till now, i am not understanding why there is no closure from emby team till now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37060 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, DarKni8 said: Then why does the same file work on web app on firefox? Why does the same file work on emby theatre? Issue is not the file here good sir, its in how emby is handling it! Maybe this is an exception which was overlooked till now, i am not understanding why there is no closure from emby team till now They're forcing server transcoding while the android app is trying to direct play, that's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Luke said: They're forcing server transcoding while the android app is trying to direct play, that's the difference. Luke , u r master. Please make something happen. There must br try and catch statement for such scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) So now i disabled transcoding for the user and tried to direct play , then also not able to play this. These logs are from latest beta @Luke, @ebr any help i can get on this issue? Lol tagging @chef and @rbjtech too, u guys pro embyserver.txt ffmpeg-transcode-bbf5b41f-80fe-4e65-b728-da5cbcd51ba8_1.txt Edited March 9, 2022 by DarKni8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 Spoiler This is working playback log. ffmpeg-directstream-4daaa980-77f2-4208-9811-490654559e3c_1.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 @Lukehere is fesh log embyserver.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy2Play 8281 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 4:04 AM, DarKni8 said: So now i disabled transcoding for the user and tried to direct play , then also not able to play this. These logs are from latest beta @Luke, @ebr any help i can get on this issue? Lol tagging @chef and @rbjtech too, u guys pro embyserver.txt 177.5 kB · 1 download ffmpeg-transcode-bbf5b41f-80fe-4e65-b728-da5cbcd51ba8_1.txt 16.98 kB · 3 downloads If disabling transcoding for the user on the server and it will not play means the client is unable to play that level. You will get different results across the board as ever player will have different capabilities. So Android may not be capable &h264-level=51&TranscodeReasons=VideoLevelNotSupported >>>>>> User policy for DarKni8 Enable Playback Remuxing: True Enable Video Playback Transcoding: True Enable Audio Playback Transcoding: True where FireFox is &h264-level=52&TranscodeReasons=ContainerNotSupported >>>>>> User policy for DarKni8 Enable Playback Remuxing: True Enable Video Playback Transcoding: False Enable Audio Playback Transcoding: True Note just because it says transcodereason does not mean it is transcoding, the FireFox example is directstreaming/remuxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKni8 37 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) So, the solution i guess is providing an option to end user to set/change highest level it can play, just like plex does and override it. And as i have said this same file direct plays on emby Linux server 4.6.7.0 but doesn't direct play on Windows Server latest beta. I understand its client dependent, but why bother if direct play is enabled? I mean this can be very nice addition to emby and i think why not, if it lets you surpass the limits. The encoding on internet is all over the place sometimes the video which is just within device capability won't play because of wrong parameters in the video, why the end user should suffer because of that ? Also i feel if someone has disabled the transcoding , why not just serve the media as it is??WHy to even look further for bitrate and video level support its just BS which can be bypassed and @Lukeknows this, i am seeing thread from 2018 where luke has acknowledged it that plex is overriding max video level support. Hardware is capable enough in today to play anything. @Happy2Play, @LukePlease do something about it in next stable. Edited March 15, 2022 by DarKni8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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