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Seems fairly obvious. Ryzen has all the cores, even on the mainstream platform. Video encoding loves cores.

 

Well, I don't know if the multi-cores are for a heavily multi-tasked environment and then still have the GPU for the actual render???? 

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The point is that hw, software doesn't matter to the encoding or decoding.

My gpu is 50% slower than my cpu at encoding or decoding with nvdec.

 

Rendering on screen is the main purpose of the gpu but that is only on the local system. Via emby rendering is done by the client device so unless playback is done locally on that system then the gpu for rendering is almost irrelevant.

 

The gpu is used to reduce system resources on the cpu, but as cpus get better even this is becoming irrelevant on some setups, still relevant where cpus are getting maxed out.

 

It then comes back to the amount of resources in use and the amount of clients, and whether or not you need to divert resources to even the load and response of the server.

 

On my system there is only family so not a commercial setup and gpu is not needed but is setup as the monitor is almost never in use.

 

Rending is yet another topic as you are striving to achieve the best 4k or even 8k experience, the transmission of the file and encoding of it may be perfect, but it the decoding device or even the display screen device honoring that file.

 

 

There is lots at play and it's still early days for perfection to exist yet. It doesn't mean that you cannot try though...

 

I have retired from pro photography and can tell you that a huge percentage of people who I have dealt with cannot even tell the difference between many images and are very happy with images that I believe are not good enough.

 

It's weird, but it's a personal thing at these specs and you like I did will end up paying for gear you probably don't even need.

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lightsout

The point is that hw, software doesn't matter to the encoding or decoding.

My gpu is 50% slower than my cpu at encoding or decoding with nvdec.

 

 

Not sure what context your speaking of. But from what I've seen it would take a hell of a CPU you best Ann Nvidia chip by that much. At least as far as fps are concerned.
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Encoding the same file with ffmpeg with my nvidia gt710 takes twice as long as it does with my i5 9400f cpu.

 

It does, I have the latest drivers too.

 

 

I've been and tried to find info why this is but nothing concrete.

 

However on some forums people seem to indicate that the performance has been broken on this particular card with the last few driver updates so I don't know how it should perform at the moment.

 

Right now it's a lot slower than the cpu. You have to bear in mind my cpu has a gpu unit built in though. So distinguishing between cpu and gpu is a hazy, all I can do is tell you how it is at the moment the cpu beats the nvidia card by a long way.

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Encoding the same file with ffmpeg with my nvidia gt710 takes twice as long as it does with my i5 9400f cpu.

 

It does, I have the latest drivers too.

 

 

I've been and tried to find info why this is but nothing concrete.

 

However on some forums people seem to indicate that the performance has been broken on this particular card with the last few driver updates so I don't know how it should perform at the moment.

 

Right now it's a lot slower than the cpu. You have to bear in mind my cpu has a gpu unit built in though. So distinguishing between cpu and gpu is a hazy, all I can do is tell you how it is at the moment the cpu beats the nvidia card by a long way.

 

When you would post some ffmpeg logs I'll be able to lighten the haze..

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Encoding the same file with ffmpeg with my nvidia gt710 takes twice as long as it does with my i5 9400f cpu.

 

It does, I have the latest drivers too.

 

 

I've been and tried to find info why this is but nothing concrete.

 

However on some forums people seem to indicate that the performance has been broken on this particular card with the last few driver updates so I don't know how it should perform at the moment.

 

Right now it's a lot slower than the cpu. You have to bear in mind my cpu has a gpu unit built in though. So distinguishing between cpu and gpu is a hazy, all I can do is tell you how it is at the moment the cpu beats the nvidia card by a long way.

Well thats an old and pretty underpowered card. I had something a little more recent in mind. My also wimpy 1050ti does some pretty slid encoding. About 150fps in handbrake.

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Well thats an old and pretty underpowered card. I had something a little more recent in mind. My also wimpy 1050ti does some pretty slid encoding. About 150fps in handbrake.

 

I agree GT710 and not going have all necessary codec function needed to under that old of a GPU in his case the CPU is better way to go

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lightsout

Then your CPU is not an "F" but perhaps a "T"? The F series do not have an iGPU.

I believe he meant that he was getting better results in software (the cpu) than in hardware (his nvidia GPU)

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