No results on album artist search

[Luke 36997]

And yes i can reproduce and that highlights the issue. The Album Artist is only the album artist and not also the track artist.

 

So there are two possible fixes we need to decide upon:

• Having artists be all, which would change the behavior of both the Artists tab and search
• Just make an adjustment for search

I probably lean towards the first option, because it's reasonable to click in there and expect to see all possible artists.

[PenkethBoy 2063]

"The Artists tab is only showing contributing artists...." are you referring to the search results or the Artist Tab in the Music Library?

 

As all my AlbumArtists show on the Artist Tab (music Library) - or is that because all my AlbumArtists are also in the Artist/Artists tag field in the mp3 - as MusicBrainz Picard puts them there?

[Luke 36997]

 

 

The Artists tab is only showing contributing artists

I'm referring to the tab in the music library.

 

 

 

or is that because all my AlbumArtists are also in the Artist/Artists tag field

 

Yes that's correct.

[Spaceboy 2492]

I'm referring to the tab in the music library.

 

 

Yes that's correct.

i don’t like the idea of combining artists and album artists into one tab. I don’t have the precise numbers as counts have been removed but I know I have roughly 750 album artists but about 10000 artists. Combining them will be a retrograde step in identifying album artists which is the tab I use most often when I’m looking for music. Edited February 24, 2019 by Spaceboy

[Vicpa 552]

Hi

 

I agree with @Spaceboy. Combing them would be a bad idea. I think the effort should be made to fix the issue with album artists, and then correct the search. It is confusing to me that search wouldn't return album artists to begin with. 

 

The artist tab has always showed contributing artists vs all artists as noted.

[Luke 36997]

Yea i'm going to start with just search but i'm curious what windows media center did, since it had both tabs like we do:

 

@@Teddy

@@jachin99

@@rms8

@@Latchmor

 

[ginjaninja 533]

The Artists tab is only showing contributing artists, as opposed to all artists which would include album artists. That could always be changed although I imagine it's been that way for a long time @@ginjaninja, @@Vicpa

 

i am not sure how it has been in past but i am sure how it should be. :-). 

 

 

when browsing the library, emby should maintain a view of album artists separately from a view of [contributing] artists:

reason: there are 1000 more [contributing] artists than album artists and wanting to choose music by album artist is the most common case,

 

artist views and artist search results should contain album artists:

reason: album artists are popular in search results, there would be too much screen clutter to have separate album artist and [contributing] artist results

reason: album artists are artists in expectation/understanding of language.

reason:  is there any benefit to keeping a completely separate [contributing[] artists view unsullied by album artists? i can not see one.

 

(i dont think luke is suggesting that combining album artists and artists, means getting rid off the separate album artist view, rather the artist view should contain both...if so i agree).

[Spaceboy 2492]

i am not sure how it has been in past but i am sure how it should be. :-).

 

 

when browsing the library, emby should maintain a view of album artists separately from a view of [contributing] artists:

reason: there are 1000 more [contributing] artists than album artists and wanting to choose music by album artist is the most common case,

 

artist views and artist search results should contain album artists:

reason: album artists are popular in search results, there would be too much screen clutter to have separate album artist and [contributing] artist results

reason: album artists are artists in expectation/understanding of language.

reason: is there any benefit to keeping a completely separate [contributing[] artists view unsullied by album artists? i can not see one.

 

(i dont think luke is suggesting that combining album artists and artists, means getting rid off the separate album artist view, rather the artist view should contain both...if so i agree).

if the suggestion is that artists would include album artist but album artists would remain separately identifiable as a subset then I would agree, that is how I would expect it to work.

[Teddy 51]

WMC makes use of mp3 tags so I imagine that the problem is that in the field "Artist" there are several names and WMC does not know how to handle it well. I modified the name of the artist to "Quartetto Italiano".
Try it with these new files and if you fix your problem.

 

https://mega.nz/#!pC5yWAAZ!o5DFO5aph7xZQrz0PsIb3Z_Rj_F4g1ShOrZ_m4_73cI

 

 

 

 

 

Yea i'm going to start with just search but i'm curious what windows media center did, since it had both tabs like we do:

 

@@Teddy

@@jachin99

@@rms8

@@Latchmor

 

 

Edited February 24, 2019 by Teddy

[Luke 36997]

@@Teddy, how does it look in WMC without modification?

[Teddy 51]

 

 

Click to the album:

 

 

 

As artists, not Paolo....neither other artists

 

 

[Luke 36997]

What does the artists tab show?

[Teddy 51]

Sorry Luke the paste imagen doesn`t work in the previous update.

These are the images.

artist Quarteto Italiano.bmp

artist but not Paolo Borciani;Elisa Pegreffi;Piero Farulli;Franco Rossi.bmp

Edited February 24, 2019 by Teddy

[Luke 36997]

So the artist tab is actually showing you the album artist? If that's true, then what does the album artist tab show? the same thing?

[Teddy 51]

Always shows "Quartetto Italiano" as artist.

 

(But for me that's WMC's correct way of working to manage the mp3 tag)

album.bmp

album 1.bmp

album2.bmp

Edited February 24, 2019 by Teddy

[Luke 36997]

Thanks for the info and for taking the time to try it.

[EduardoSantos 40]

Thanks everybody for the effort.

 

I think Emby should keep it's current distinction regarding "Album artist" and "Artist". This is the best means to keep a music library of all genres.

Rock/pop bands change their members throughout their lifetime, jazz artists change from one track to another and this is the core of jazz aficionados, also classical music soloists change on every musical piece...

 

I would also review some of Emby interfaces as to correctly refer to "Album artist" or "Artist".

 

As an example, the "Now Playing" screen to music on Chromecast shows:

- Track title

- "The first artist "

- Album title

And by "The first artist " I mean the first track artist it gets from the database. This, I think, should be the album artist.

Of course would be even better if this now playing screen would show Album artist and also, all contributing artists.

[EduardoSantos 40]

 

 

The above image is Emby's web interface screenshot from the album detail screen.

It has one of the track's menu activated,

 

As mentioned, it seems to me there could be real improvements with very little effort.

 

a) There is currently no "Play" button on the track line. Instead each track line shows three buttons: "Add to playlist", "More..." (which opens the menu shown on the above image) and "Add to favorites". The "Add to playlist" is also shown on the "More…" menu.

I would suggest:

• relocate "More" button to the end
• change "add to playlist" to play button
• using the long click function already standard to Emby as a means to select one or more tracks to insert/create a playlist.

 

Once the "Play" button is present, I would suggest every contributing artist on the track line, e.g.: number (1) on the image, to be a link to the artist detail page,

 

c) On track's "More" menu there currently is a "View artist" option (number 3 on the above image) which actually leads to the first track's contributing artist. I would suggest changing this option to "View Album artist". As mentioned on ( above, every contributor artist would be reachable from links under track's name.

 

d) I found no reason why each track "More" menu has an "View album" option (number 2 on the image) as we are on the album detail page.

 

e) The "now playing" tray currently have two links: one to the album detail screen containing the track being played and one to track's artist detail page. Problem here is this second link leads to "the first contributing artist" Emby grabs from database. As stated on item ( above, I suggest there should be a link to each artist shown.

Edited February 25, 2019 by EduardoSantos

[EduardoSantos 40]

So the artist tab is actually showing you the album artist? If that's true, then what does the album artist tab show? the same thing?

 

Now for Emby I think the current behavior is correct.

 

"Album Artists" tab correctly shows all album artists. It correctly shows the "Quartetto Italiano" from the sample tracks.

 

"Artists" tab currently shows only names found on track artists so "Quartetto Italiano" is not shown.

[PenkethBoy 2063]

There is no Play button on a track - because you can just click the track and it will play (in the web app at least)

 

so that would have to change/modified to allow "linking" to a contributing artist - which i have wanted for a while

 

Yes view album does in an Album view seem a bit odd

 

Your other points make sense to me

[EduardoSantos 40]

bump

[Luke 36997]

Please try again when Emby Server 4.1+ is released. Thanks.

[EduardoSantos 40]

YEAH!!!!!

Running Emby Windows 4.1.0.26 and it works!!!!

Many, many thanks @@Luke!

[Luke 36997]

Thanks for the feedback !