Completed Remember audio and subtitles selection per TV show

[Luke 37046]

If it's not tagged as English then that would be a problem.

[EduardoSantos 40]

I understand the subject as "keeping the subtitle selection" from one episode to another.

So, 

 

- If an external subtitle what has been selected, that selection should be kept to the next episode;

- If an embedded subtitle has been chosen, just keep language selection from that subtitle language to the next episode;

- If an embedded subtitle with no language setting has been selected, just keep the ID from that subtitle;

- If there's two embedded subtitles to that language on the new episode, keep the ID from the first episode;

- If no subtitle from the next episode matches, fall back to the configured subtitle handling.

[ebr 14910]

I understand the subject as "keeping the subtitle selection" from one episode to another.

 

So, 

 

- If an external subtitle what has been selected, that selection should be kept to the next episode;

- If an embedded subtitle has been chosen, just keep language selection from that subtitle language to the next episode;

- If an embedded subtitle with no language setting has been selected, just keep the ID from that subtitle;

- If there's two embedded subtitles to that language on the new episode, keep the ID from the first episode;

- If no subtitle from the next episode matches, fall back to the configured subtitle handling.

 

Every one of those cases has the potential to choose the wrong (or nonexistent) subtitle in many cases.  So, again, we're back to why isn't the normal automatic handling of this working because that is the most reliable way to accomplish what you want.

[EduardoSantos 40]

For instance it will not work for me as Emby picks the PT subtitle stream while it should pick the PT-BR. It so happens both are PT.

Same occurs with Spanish and other languages.

 

It really seems pretty simple to stick to the same stream if it was already selected, it exists and it has the same ID.

[ebr 14910]

It really seems pretty simple to stick to the same stream if it was already selected, it exists and it has the same ID.

 

The only ID involved is a positional index.  That really is no guarantee of anything from one video to another...  That same index could be anything - even an audio or video track.

 

So any attempt to do what is asked here would need to be based on track properties (language, forced, etc.) instead.

 

For instance, allowing you to override your normal default subtitle settings per show.

[neik 837]

Just to wanted to lend my support for this request.

It's quite annoying having to change the audio everytime you move on to the next episode.

[ebr 14910]

1 hour ago, neik said:

It's quite annoying having to change the audio everytime you move on to the next episode.

Why don't the defaults select the proper one already?

[neik 837]

6 hours ago, ebr said:

Why don't the defaults select the proper one already?

It's described over here:

 

[Bazzu85 21]

Hi..

 

I don't understand the technical problems to add this feature..

 

I've emby configured to default the italian audio language so:

- the file with italian audio are defaulted with this

- the file without italian audio follows the file structure and order (ex Japanese only anime defaults to japanese audio and the first subtitle)

Choosing a different default for every series or season can override the global default in the same way..

What I'm missing?

Thx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dirtylilfunker 4]

Hi,

Did anyone find a resolution to this problem? I have a tv show that i need English subs on and it keeps resetting to English (ASS) which shows no subtitles, i have to manually change to English (SUBRIP) before each show then, despite having remember subtitle selection ticked in settings, it reverts back to (ASS) every time. This is really annoying and the reason i can't make a full jump to Emby; i watch shows with this problem on Plex instead. Once i set it it should stay like that. If Plex can do this why can't Emby? Especially when Plex is free and Emby isn't. Once your selection of audo track or subtitles are set in Plex it remembers your choice, never reverts and sets this selection for remote viewing too. This problem affects both audio selection and subtitles on selected shows in Emby. For info all my shows are hard coded, not a seperate sub file.

Thanks

D

[ebr 14910]

4 minutes ago, dirtylilfunker said:

Did anyone find a resolution to this problem? I have a tv show that i need English subs on and it keeps resetting to English (ASS) which shows no subtitles, i have to manually change to English (SUBRIP) before each show then, despite having remember subtitle selection ticked in settings, it reverts back to (ASS) every time.

Hi.  Can we please look at why your external subs aren't displaying?

The system prefers external subs when present because they are more compatable usually and, the thinking is, if you went to the trouble to add external subs, then they are probably the ones you want.  So, there are two issues here: 1) why aren't your external subs showing properly and 2) why do you have external subs if they are not the ones you want?

You can solve your immediate issue by deleting the external (ASS) subtitles and running a scan.

[Luke 37046]

14 hours ago, dirtylilfunker said:

Hi,

Did anyone find a resolution to this problem? I have a tv show that i need English subs on and it keeps resetting to English (ASS) which shows no subtitles, i have to manually change to English (SUBRIP) before each show then, despite having remember subtitle selection ticked in settings, it reverts back to (ASS) every time. This is really annoying and the reason i can't make a full jump to Emby; i watch shows with this problem on Plex instead. Once i set it it should stay like that. If Plex can do this why can't Emby? Especially when Plex is free and Emby isn't. Once your selection of audo track or subtitles are set in Plex it remembers your choice, never reverts and sets this selection for remote viewing too. This problem affects both audio selection and subtitles on selected shows in Emby. For info all my shows are hard coded, not a seperate sub file.

Thanks

D

Hi there, can we please look at an example? Please attach the information requested in how to report a media playback issue. thanks !

[luffy633 1]

It would be good to have option to select audio and subtitle of all episode in single location (for example, season page) on top of making selection at individual episode. With this I can preconfigure for all episode in one goal and start watching all episodes without changing one by one.  

[DarkStar1977 37]

On 10/23/2019 at 11:45 PM, ebr said:

This all boils down to how does the program determine "the same selection it had on the [previous] episode"?

 

Each episode is it's own completely different media item and could be in a different format with completely different streams available.

Other solutions ... let's not say names .... carry over subtitles per user inside a show watching session

Let me explain:

If You start to watch Episode 1 now, and you select, for example, English subtitles on a Japanese show, when next chapter is played this is carried out meanwhile you're playing a chapter after another.

If you stop playing AND you go outside the specific show season to another tv show, movie, etc. and you go back, you have to manually select again "English subtitles over Japanese Audio" because the preference is not maintained, but meanwhile you see a chapter after another your preferences on audio and subtitles are the same as the previous chapter selection.

If for any reason one chapter has no language available same as the previous episode, then use the default tracks.

Hope this helps as this is a real need.

Thanks

Edited May 17, 2021 by DarkStar1977

[ebr 14910]

1 hour ago, DarkStar1977 said:

Other solutions ... let's not say names .... carry over subtitles per user inside a show watching session

Let me explain:

If You start to watch Episode 1 now, and you select, for example, English subtitles on a Japanese show, when next chapter is played this is carried out meanwhile you're playing a chapter after another.

If you stop playing AND you go outside the specific show season to another tv show, movie, etc. and you go back, you have to manually select again "English subtitles over Japanese Audio" because the preference is not maintained, but meanwhile you see a chapter after another your preferences on audio and subtitles are the same as the previous chapter selection.

If for any reason one chapter has no language available same as the previous episode, then use the default tracks.

Hope this helps as this is a real need.

Thanks

But, in that example, why wouldn't our settings for choosing audio and subs just automatically do that anyway?

[vdatanet 1549]

The audio language is remembered. For example, I have started to watch a TV show with default audio in Spanish. I have changed the audio track to Catalan. In subsequent episodes, Catalan is automatically selected, even on other devices.

If subtitles are off, even if we change the subtitle language, in subsequent episodes they are always off (default value).

In my opinion, although when subtitles are off by default, changing or enabling subtitles should also be remembered in subsequent episodes (per TV Show of course)

Edited May 17, 2021 by vdatanet

[DarkStar1977 37]

1 hour ago, ebr said:

But, in that example, why wouldn't our settings for choosing audio and subs just automatically do that anyway?

Because you're thinking on a single library or a single user.

We must have, as an example a library where everything is in spanish and subtitles are deactivated but there's a a good example is "the greatest american hero" is all dubbed to spanish except the las 6 chapters.

If I setup no-subtitles for the library, then I must setup for each one of the 6 final chapters the spanish subtitles on 6 times, if u carry over the last chapter configuration per session I will not have to setup the spanish subtitles more than once.

An BTW, I understand that you as English speaker user a few times subtitles, but Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney + and most of existing platforms act this way, maintaining per show subtitles/audio, not having to setup this for each chapter.

Edited May 17, 2021 by DarkStar1977

[ebr 14910]

1 hour ago, DarkStar1977 said:

but Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney + and most of existing platforms act this way, maintaining per show subtitles/audio, not having to setup this for each chapter.

That is because they control the content so they can provide the exact same subs on each item.  We do not control the content and cannot predict what subtitles will or wont exist on any given item (that could be from different sources).

So, we understand your desire.  We are just saying that it is technically much more difficult (not impossible) to achieve in our environment than theirs.

1 hour ago, DarkStar1977 said:

If I setup no-subtitles for the library, then I must setup for each one of the 6 final chapters the spanish subtitles on 6 times, if u carry over the last chapter configuration per session I will not have to setup the spanish subtitles more than once.

Why not use one of the smarter default settings that will choose subtitles when the audio is not in your preferred language?  Wouldn't that cover that scenario?

[DarkStar1977 37]

Because forced subtitles are not working on Apple TV, I've a threat opened for that in the Apple TV forum

[ebr 14910]

1 minute ago, DarkStar1977 said:

Because forced subtitles are not working on Apple TV, I've a thread [sic] opened for that in the Apple TV forum

but how does that relate to using a subtitle default setting that would choose proper subs for you with foreign audio tracks?

[DarkStar1977 37]

2 hours ago, ebr said:

but how does that relate to using a subtitle default setting that would choose proper subs for you with foreign audio tracks?

I don't see the option for setting a default subs with foreign tracks:

 

[ebr 14910]

I'm not sure what it is in that translation but the "Smart" subtitle mode will automatically select subtitles when the audio track language does not match your selected default language.

[nodispname 0]

My issue is when there are sub-titles for small parts. For example subtitles in an alien language , or subtitles for other language popups.

My preferred subtitle language is really none. I don't want English subtitles. And on shows where the language is 99% English smart doesn't really work either.

[nodispname 0]

Thinking on it a bit more, if you could give me a way to programmatically (like via a scripting language / web interface) to set my subtitle preference for a show I could take it from there. Your SW may treat each show as its own special thing, but as the importer I know apriori, and if I could tag it all on my own that would be way more acceptable. Just have to define an API (which of course is trivial /s)

[ebr 14910]

4 hours ago, nodispname said:

My issue is when there are sub-titles for small parts. For example subtitles in an alien language , or subtitles for other language popups.

My preferred subtitle language is really none. I don't want English subtitles. And on shows where the language is 99% English smart doesn't really work either.

Hi.  These types of subs are called "forced subs" and the "Smart" setting should choose these when necessary already if you have your preferred audio and sub languages set.