adam1010 19 Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I just confirmed that both Netflix and Amazon Video allow my 5min screensaver to come on when I have paused a video. It's fantastic... If we exclude Live TV, is it something you would consider? Netflix & Amazon set the precedent so if we want to be in line with user's expectations, we need to stop suppressing the screensaver. I mean that's the whole idea of a screensaver.... you leave for a while and when you come back (regardless of what you were doing when you left), the screensaver is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 It is a possibility but you realize, if we do this, it is just going to exacerbate your other issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 That's fine -- I need to draw attention to that other bug anyways. So it's a win win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 @@ebr In the most recent Android update the auto-logoff has stopped working if content is paused -- was that a feature or a bug? I left a TV show paused and left for the day and usually when I come home the TV is off (Emby does auto-logoff, then Android screensaver can kick on, and then the Android kills the video signal after a while, and then the TV while auto-power-off after signal is off). I've noticed coming home after many hours and my TV is (unfortunately) still on, paused where I left it. If this change was intentional, it really is time to create a "Paused Idle Timeout" that will then allow the Auto Time-Out to work as before (or allow my Android screensaver to appear) -- I'd prefer allowing the screensaver to appear during pause, but I know you have strong opinions so just let me know how you would like to handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Any change surrounding this was unintentional. What version of the app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 3.3.0.0 Google version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3.3.0.0 Google version That's not a valid version of our app and, if that's your server version, it is behind so I would suggest updating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 My bad -- 1.5.66g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 @@ebr Were you able to reproduce the problem of Auto Logoff being broken in the latest versions? If a TV show is pasued then Auto Logoff will never trigger, the TV will stay paused for days... While you're in there, could you please just add an Auto Logoff for 5min and 15min too? Not only will that help with testing but it'll be great for those of us that enjoy our screensaver. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 That behavior is by design right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Okay so the auto-logoff no longer triggers if paused? Since this is kind of a breaking change, can we take this opportunity to add an "Enable Screensaver" option that will exit playback after being paused for 10min? (or even just "Idle Playback Timeout" that's off by default with a few timing options) I'm fine with only applying it to TV SHOWS and not Movies or Live content. This way I can leave my TV paused and it will eventually stop playback, auto-log off, and then allow my TV to power off automatically. I keep coming home to multiple TVs in the house on and paused because that's the habit we've developed using Emby the last few years. Please consider it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I think on some level your points make sense, it's just not something that's easy to change in an ecosystem of a server and a dozen apps. That's why we are monitoring it for community support to see how much interest there is in revamping this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Why can't it be changed back then? I've used Emby for years and I could always leave content paused, and when I came back hours later my TV would be shut off due to the Auto Logoff feature. That feature is now "broken" relative to how it's worked since it was added. So what's the problem with restoring that functionality to how it's always worked? I understand that allowing the screensaver to come up on Android TV is something you guys don't care about -- I'm just asking that you restore the Auto Logoff feature to work as it always has. That way I can get my screensaver to come on that way, and get my TV to shut off automatically. What else is the point of the Auto Logoff feature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I understand that allowing the screensaver to come up on Android TV is something you guys don't care about -- I'm just asking that you restore the Auto Logoff feature to work as it always has. That way I can get my screensaver to come on that way, and get my TV to shut off automatically. What else is the point of the Auto Logoff feature? The auto logoff works fine in the 99% use-case. Your usage pattern is just very rare. Most people stop the content if they are finished watching for now but pause it if they are not and wish to come back to it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1010 19 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Possibly the majority but definitely not 99% -- I have a TV in my office and I work from home. I have the TV on in the background like a lot of people, but if I get a phone call or a family member comes in, or I need to run to the bathroom/kitchen, or any of 100 other reasons, I'll pause it, expecting to come right back. Much of the time I do come right back, which is why I don't stop it. Stopping it causes 2 primary issues: 1) It does the 15sec auto-rewind (which I like when I'm starting back an episode I wasn't just watching) 2) If I'm within the last few percent of the episode, Emby will *erroneously* mark the episode as watched. So it doesn't make sense to stop the show every time I need to walk into the other room. And for years I've relied on the Auto Logoff feature to close everything down and put the TV to sleep if I don't return in a reasonable amount of time. This isn't that weird of a use-case. Maybe the people that only watch TV for an hour at night will stop the content like you're "supposed to", but the junkies out there that always have the TV on, pausing is very common. This mostly just affects TV apps, so can you not just stick a checkbox on the Android/Fire version to allow Auto-Logoff to apply on paused content? I'm fine with limiting it to non-live content if that addresses the main concern for not doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 0 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hi, I use the Emby app on the new Shield TV Pro 2019 and I would like to have this screensaver feature while a video (not Live TV) is paused. I use the pause very often (sometime for several tens of minutes) and I would like to limit as much as possible the burn-in on my OLED TV. The auto log off feature is not a convenient solution in my opinion. Do you plan to add this feature someday? Thank you for your great work with Emby Sever and Emby Apps ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hi. It is possible for the future but, if you are going to pause for that long, why not just back out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 0 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I can use the auto log off for very long pause. But it usually does not last more than 15 minutes, and multiples times during a movie. So it's faster to resume playback than log on. And the screensaver could start automatically after 5 minutes (the minimum time parameter of the Shield TV). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 So it's faster to resume playback than log on. And the screensaver could start automatically after 5 minutes (the minimum time parameter of the Shield TV). Hi. You don't need to logoff. Just back out to the detail screen (or whatever screen you were on) and then you can resume playback from there with a single button click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 0 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Resume the playback from the detail screen take some seconds to load. Resume the playback from a pause video is instantaneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Resume the playback from a pause video is instantaneous. It wouldn't be if we allowed the screen saver to kick in. The Android screen saver is just another Android app. So, when it starts, what happens is our app is sent to the background - which means it is now available to be shut down entirely by the system if needed. So, if we allow the screen saver to start, we would need to stop the video entirely anyway. What could solve the issue you are really trying to solve, though, would be for us do something inside the app like dim the screen way down after a prolonged period of pause... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 0 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yes, dim is a solution, or why not add a screensaver feature in the Emby app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36887 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 why not add a screensaver feature in the Emby app? It's a great idea for the future. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qazwsx10 6 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) It's a great idea for the future. Thanks. @@ebr @@Luke Just checking to see if this was implemented? Planning on switching back to using the Shield as my Emby App instead of the internal LG App. Edited February 28, 2020 by qazwsx10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14863 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 No, we have not added a custom screen saver to the app at this time. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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