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JMGNYC

In the latest version of ET I am having a problem with the mouse cursor showing itself in the middle of the screen and never hiding itself. It happens only when I'm the video being played requires a refresh rate switch e.g. 24p. I'm using madVR and its refresh rate switching. Again this is only in recent versions. It's a new problem.

 

Stopping playback and the mouse cursor is visible in the ET UI for a second or so then hides itself. I'm using Windows 10.

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Jack Burton

I've had this before. For me it was caused by the ET losing focus. Try clicking on the osd to regain focus

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Granted I am running a very simple test setup, but I am not able to make this happen so that I can look at it. Can you try to isolate the conditions and settings in which it occurs? thanks.

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Granted I am running a very simple test setup, but I am not able to make this happen so that I can look at it. Can you try to isolate the conditions and settings in which it occurs? thanks.

 

I'll do some testing and report back. 

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This is happening for me too, but only on one HTPC, I have tried to isolate the issue to try and work out the difference between the HTPC that has the issue, and the HTPC that doesn't, but failed to come up with anything. Unless it is hardware related, the HTPC with the issue has an old AMD video card, the one without the issue has an Nvidia.

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Sammy

I have this issue as well.. Conditions? Start playback of any video. Settings: I use madVR in the native player. Should I try using MPC-HC and madVR externally? The only solution seems to be to grab the keyboard and move the pointer but this is obviously not ideal in a theater environment where the HTPC is supposed to be transparent to the end user.

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Sammy

This is happening for me too, but only on one HTPC, I have tried to isolate the issue to try and work out the difference between the HTPC that has the issue, and the HTPC that doesn't, but failed to come up with anything. Unless it is hardware related, the HTPC with the issue has an old AMD video card, the one without the issue has an Nvidia.

I don't have another to test but could put Theater on my i5 Devil's Canyon that has no video card at all but I too have an "older" AMD card.. XFX Core Edition Radeon HD 7850.. and am having this mouse pointer issue.

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ChrisSHouston

I encountered this issue last night and I'm running an NVidia GTX 680, so I don't think it's an AMD issue. Oddly enough, it persistently happened on one 1080p 24fps MKV file while another 1080p 24fps MKV worked just fine. Reboots didn't address it, but I just tried both videos today and saw no issues. Happy to test if anyone can think of a scenario I should try.

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Sammy

It appears to be random for me too. Last night we didn't see it at all but the previous day we did. These are basically TV Shows in h264/ac3 and not anything out of the ordinary.

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Sammy

I am using the internal madVR in ET with smooth motion on and have it set to 7.1 for surround. I'm sorry I am not looking at the settings right now but going from memory. IIR, there isn't many settings with the internal player in ET so that should be about it.

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ChrisSHouston

Settings are as follows:

DXVA2CopyBack,

MadVR,

Video Output Range,

Change Monitor Refresh Rate to Match Video=Yes,

Filter Set=Stable,

Mad VR Smooth Motion = Avoid Judder.

I've confirmed the issue both following fresh restarts and when waking from sleep straight into Emby (i.e. Emby Theater was the active program when the HTPC went to sleep, and the PC is resuming to an active Emby screen).

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Sammy

Settings are as follows:

DXVA2CopyBack,

MadVR,

Video Output Range,

Change Monitor Refresh Rate to Match Video=Yes,

Filter Set=Stable,

Mad VR Smooth Motion = Avoid Judder.

 

I've confirmed the issue both following fresh restarts and when waking from sleep straight into Emby (i.e. Emby Theater was the active program when the HTPC went to sleep, and the PC is resuming to an active Emby screen).

That looks to be what I've got to if my memory serves me well.

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Sammy

Sorry. I am in the middle of setting up my pool control so I can access it via an app and got bogged down in that last night and this morning because the pool controls have to work for my wife today. I didn't have time to test ET with frame rate switching off. I'll shoot for tonight or tomorrow morning.

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Sammy

So.. My wife went to play the following for the nieces and nephews today and called with a report of the video being choppy. I immediately think, "refresh rate" so I talk her through changing the settings for Match display to video frame rate to off, whereupon she reports that it is playing fine but the mouse is in the screen again, where do I move it? Anywhere out of the way I say.. Anyhow. It is still there and the frame rate matching doesn't seem to be working correctly either. Granted this is second hand but she's usually pretty savvy on these things..

 

I will check myself tonight of course.

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ChrisSHouston

I gave it a shot, and the refresh rate setting didn't appear to have any impact. My observations from tests today:

  1. I started playing a video and experienced no problems. Exited and played a few more, then on about the sixth video file, the "unfocused playback window" started. The files I was playing to test were files I had previously experienced the issue with - 1080p 24fps MKV files. They behaved fine, then on the sixth or so playback, the playback screen lost focus.
  2. When the video starts launching "out of focus" appears random. Once it starts, it persists across video files, including after restarting Emby Theater AND after rebooting the PC. It's almost as if the app is remembering the erroneous "last position" of the playback window.
  3. "Refocusing" by clicking on the window fixes the issue, but it does not appear to permanently refocus the "last position" of the playback window. After a reboot and settings change, I am now permanently experiencing the issue, near as I can tell. If my past experience is to be believed, it will resolve itself in a day or so, but return permanently once triggered again. I wonder if my system automatically updated to the latest version after I first experienced the issue, which ended up resetting the Window "last position?"
  4. I experienced the start of the problem with both 24 fps and 30 fps media, but it's a bit hard to say if it's truly "starting" since the problem seems persistent once triggered. I will try to begin playback tomorrow without resolution switching enabled and on a 30 fps video to see if the problem is persisting.
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A windows MCE remote. Note that clicking on the video to "refocus" removes the ability to access the pop-up menu containing subtitles/audio controls by pressing down on the remote.

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