JMGNYC 10 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 In the latest version of ET I am having a problem with the mouse cursor showing itself in the middle of the screen and never hiding itself. It happens only when I'm the video being played requires a refresh rate switch e.g. 24p. I'm using madVR and its refresh rate switching. Again this is only in recent versions. It's a new problem. Stopping playback and the mouse cursor is visible in the ET UI for a second or so then hides itself. I'm using Windows 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunk 18 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Same here but I do not switch refresh rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton 94 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I've had this before. For me it was caused by the ET losing focus. Try clicking on the osd to regain focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGNYC 10 Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 Any update on this? It happens regularly every time I play something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36999 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Granted I am running a very simple test setup, but I am not able to make this happen so that I can look at it. Can you try to isolate the conditions and settings in which it occurs? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGNYC 10 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 Granted I am running a very simple test setup, but I am not able to make this happen so that I can look at it. Can you try to isolate the conditions and settings in which it occurs? thanks. I'll do some testing and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 This is happening for me too, but only on one HTPC, I have tried to isolate the issue to try and work out the difference between the HTPC that has the issue, and the HTPC that doesn't, but failed to come up with anything. Unless it is hardware related, the HTPC with the issue has an old AMD video card, the one without the issue has an Nvidia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I have this issue as well.. Conditions? Start playback of any video. Settings: I use madVR in the native player. Should I try using MPC-HC and madVR externally? The only solution seems to be to grab the keyboard and move the pointer but this is obviously not ideal in a theater environment where the HTPC is supposed to be transparent to the end user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) This is happening for me too, but only on one HTPC, I have tried to isolate the issue to try and work out the difference between the HTPC that has the issue, and the HTPC that doesn't, but failed to come up with anything. Unless it is hardware related, the HTPC with the issue has an old AMD video card, the one without the issue has an Nvidia. I don't have another to test but could put Theater on my i5 Devil's Canyon that has no video card at all but I too have an "older" AMD card.. XFX Core Edition Radeon HD 7850.. and am having this mouse pointer issue. Edited August 16, 2016 by Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Might be video card related then. The HTPC with the issue here is using a HD6450. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSHouston 2 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) I encountered this issue last night and I'm running an NVidia GTX 680, so I don't think it's an AMD issue. Oddly enough, it persistently happened on one 1080p 24fps MKV file while another 1080p 24fps MKV worked just fine. Reboots didn't address it, but I just tried both videos today and saw no issues. Happy to test if anyone can think of a scenario I should try. Edited August 16, 2016 by ChrisSHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 It appears to be random for me too. Last night we didn't see it at all but the previous day we did. These are basically TV Shows in h264/ac3 and not anything out of the ordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36999 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I meant more related to settings in the app. Like are you on default settings for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I am using the internal madVR in ET with smooth motion on and have it set to 7.1 for surround. I'm sorry I am not looking at the settings right now but going from memory. IIR, there isn't many settings with the internal player in ET so that should be about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSHouston 2 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Settings are as follows: DXVA2CopyBack, MadVR, Video Output Range, Change Monitor Refresh Rate to Match Video=Yes, Filter Set=Stable, Mad VR Smooth Motion = Avoid Judder.I've confirmed the issue both following fresh restarts and when waking from sleep straight into Emby (i.e. Emby Theater was the active program when the HTPC went to sleep, and the PC is resuming to an active Emby screen). Edited August 17, 2016 by ChrisSHouston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Settings are as follows: DXVA2CopyBack, MadVR, Video Output Range, Change Monitor Refresh Rate to Match Video=Yes, Filter Set=Stable, Mad VR Smooth Motion = Avoid Judder. I've confirmed the issue both following fresh restarts and when waking from sleep straight into Emby (i.e. Emby Theater was the active program when the HTPC went to sleep, and the PC is resuming to an active Emby screen). That looks to be what I've got to if my memory serves me well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36999 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 can you test this without changing refresh rate? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 can you test this without changing refresh rate? thanks. I will do that tonight or tomorrow morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Sorry. I am in the middle of setting up my pool control so I can access it via an app and got bogged down in that last night and this morning because the pool controls have to work for my wife today. I didn't have time to test ET with frame rate switching off. I'll shoot for tonight or tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36999 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 No problem For your entertainment! http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php/topic,38298.msg290621.html#msg290621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy 735 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) So.. My wife went to play the following for the nieces and nephews today and called with a report of the video being choppy. I immediately think, "refresh rate" so I talk her through changing the settings for Match display to video frame rate to off, whereupon she reports that it is playing fine but the mouse is in the screen again, where do I move it? Anywhere out of the way I say.. Anyhow. It is still there and the frame rate matching doesn't seem to be working correctly either. Granted this is second hand but she's usually pretty savvy on these things.. I will check myself tonight of course. General Unique ID : 182522879339614789284316024112163669731 (0x8950A0BD1C3CEBBAA0DEF213660946E3) Complete name : T:\Movies\movie name (2016)\movie name (2016).mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 / Version 2 File size : 5.05 GiB Duration : 1 h 37 min Overall bit rate : 7 432 kb/s Movie name : Movie Name (2016) 1080p Bluray AC3 x264 - AdiT Encoded date : UTC 2016-08-04 11:39:04 Writing application : mkvmerge v9.3.1 ('Mask Machine') 64bit Writing library : libebml v1.3.4 + libmatroska v1.4.5 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 h 37 min Bit rate : 6 790 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 040 pixels Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.142 Stream size : 4.61 GiB (91%) Writing library : x264 core 148 r2638 7599210 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-2:-2 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.05 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=9 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=200 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=21.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=32000 / vbv_bufsize=38000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_AC3 Duration : 1 h 37 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 640 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 spf) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 445 MiB (9%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Text ID : 3 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Duration : 1 h 31 min Bit rate : 62 b/s Count of elements : 1520 Stream size : 42.2 KiB (0%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Menu 00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 1 00:07:05.091 : en:Chapter 2 00:13:38.108 : en:Chapter 3 00:20:22.638 : en:Chapter 4 00:25:38.620 : en:Chapter 5 00:32:57.392 : en:Chapter 6 00:38:34.812 : en:Chapter 7 00:41:36.327 : en:Chapter 8 00:47:12.955 : en:Chapter 9 00:52:04.287 : en:Chapter 10 00:56:07.697 : en:Chapter 11 00:59:08.711 : en:Chapter 12 01:03:43.319 : en:Chapter 13 01:11:45.801 : en:Chapter 14 01:18:55.522 : en:Chapter 15 01:23:54.821 : en:Chapter 16 Edited August 18, 2016 by Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSHouston 2 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I gave it a shot, and the refresh rate setting didn't appear to have any impact. My observations from tests today: I started playing a video and experienced no problems. Exited and played a few more, then on about the sixth video file, the "unfocused playback window" started. The files I was playing to test were files I had previously experienced the issue with - 1080p 24fps MKV files. They behaved fine, then on the sixth or so playback, the playback screen lost focus. When the video starts launching "out of focus" appears random. Once it starts, it persists across video files, including after restarting Emby Theater AND after rebooting the PC. It's almost as if the app is remembering the erroneous "last position" of the playback window. "Refocusing" by clicking on the window fixes the issue, but it does not appear to permanently refocus the "last position" of the playback window. After a reboot and settings change, I am now permanently experiencing the issue, near as I can tell. If my past experience is to be believed, it will resolve itself in a day or so, but return permanently once triggered again. I wonder if my system automatically updated to the latest version after I first experienced the issue, which ended up resetting the Window "last position?" I experienced the start of the problem with both 24 fps and 30 fps media, but it's a bit hard to say if it's truly "starting" since the problem seems persistent once triggered. I will try to begin playback tomorrow without resolution switching enabled and on a 30 fps video to see if the problem is persisting. Edited August 19, 2016 by ChrisSHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 36999 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 what is your primary input method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisSHouston 2 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 A windows MCE remote. Note that clicking on the video to "refocus" removes the ability to access the pop-up menu containing subtitles/audio controls by pressing down on the remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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