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I have just got a mate into mbt and he has set it up just from the installer. Tv programs files play fine and fill out the screen on his widescreen tv but films are showing up with about a 6 inch black bar top and bottom. I seem to remember having this issue myself and think it was a madvr setting but that was in the old mbc has anyone else had this or know a solution

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Deathsquirrel

Some movies should have bars, they're at a wider aspect ratio than 16X9 TVs.  Other movies should have no bars at the top and bottom.  Some, older titles in particular, will have bars on the sides.

 

Can you give an example title that you aren't expecting to have bars that does?  What is the frame width and height of the video image?  You can get that by right clicking the movie file in Windows, clicking Properties, and clicking the Details tab.

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It happens with all films he has atm including great escape , bourne , casino royale to name a few. None of my films do it no matter the ratio but i did have this issue with aliens before i changed a setting in madvr iirc

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Deathsquirrel

It happens with all films he has atm including great escape , bourne , casino royale to name a few. None of my films do it no matter the ratio but i did have this issue with aliens before i changed a setting in madvr iirc

 

All the movies you listed are supposed to have bars at the top and bottom.  They're all around 2.35:1 ratios, much wider than a standard widescreen TV which is 16:9.

 

As Luke said, there are zoom options, but what you're describing is normal for those films.

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Check the aspect ratio of the movie. Most are 2.35 to 1. This will produce the black bars on a standard HDTV which is 16 to 9 aspect ratio. The movie should be watched in its native aspect ratio. If you zoom the screen to get rid of the black bars, you're likely to miss out on details in the various movie scenes. If you stretch it to fit vertically, everything will look out of proportion. There was a big revolt against Netflix for cropping the aspect ratio of movies, or using pan & scan for various scenes in movies to avoid having the black bars. Example: http://gizmodo.com/you-wont-believe-how-much-netflix-crops-your-movies-816686310 I have found a lot of streaming services do this to movies, as well as cable TV, which is why I don't subscribe to either.

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AdrianW

We seem to have been having this argument since DVDs were released in the late 90's.

 

For some strange reason some people want to fill their screen even if it means losing content or distorting the image. Some people can't even tell when the aspect ratio is incorrect. (Even when the Universal Earth logo is egg shaped!)

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We seem to have been having this argument since DVDs were released in the late 90's.

 

For some strange reason some people want to fill their screen even if it means losing content or distorting the image. Some people can't even tell when the aspect ratio is incorrect. (Even when the Universal Earth logo is egg shaped!)

 

Don't get me started :P My father and I, whom I built an HTPC for, have this argument all the time!

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Koleckai Silvestri

Play some of the classic stuff shot in 4:3 from Pre-HD days. Then the bars are on the left and right. It gets really bad if you're watching a television show on a 4:3 channel on a 16:9 television and then a 16:9 ad comes on. In that instance, you have bars on all four sides of the screen with the ad taking up about 1/4th of the screen in the middle.

 

The FX network had fallout from this recently. They showed the entire series of The Simpsons. Before HD television, the episodes were 4:3. So FX decided to alter them to fit 16:9. They destroyed a lot of the visual gags while doing so since they just cut off the top and bottom of the image so it would fit.

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Although, I have seen where (what Koleckai stated) MBT has a 16X9 window, smaller than the actual screen size, in the middle. I guess you could say black bars all around. But it was in fact a 16X9 film. Manipulating the various settings fixed it. I believe it was a DVD rip converted to MKV.

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wiretap

Although, I have seen where (what Koleckai stated) MBT has a 16X9 window, smaller than the actual screen size, in the middle. I guess you could say black bars all around. But it was in fact a 16X9 film. Manipulating the various settings fixed it. I believe it was a DVD rip converted to MKV.

That's probably due to improper ripping/encoding, not cropping the black bars out. 

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