LehighBri 19 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Are there any plans (or interest) to create a plugin or support for this new service that just entered initial testing phases? Would love to see it supported at some point as the Emby guide/UI is fantastic and keeps getting better when it comes to live TV. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1275320038/hdhomerun-dvr-the-dvr-re-imagined 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I would love to see this as well. Probably a bit early, but curious if they will have an API for developers to interact with the DVR engine and guide data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LehighBri 19 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 Definitely a bit early, agree. It's more about raising awareness and interest at this point vs. starting to code something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebr 14910 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 We have an open dialog with Silicon Dust. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Definitely a bit early, agree. It's more about raising awareness and interest at this point vs. starting to code something. Agreed! Their product is a ways off from being production ready but I am hopeful it will become a great product when released. We have an open dialog with Silicon Dust. Sweeeet, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I have been testing this out since yesterday. So far I have no problems with any recordings or with what the Alpha Release is set up to do so far in functionality. There are still a number of things to be added to the program to make it easier to navigate, user friendly, etc. So far though, the recording engine and playback seem solid. -Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I've been using it with a Windows 8 machine with no problems. I wish it recorded in TS file format for ease of use with MCEBuddy, but we can't have everything. Interestingly, the NAS search identifies the Emby server as a possible NAS (using Emby on FreeNAS). I tried to connect, created a new CIFS share with path into the pluginjail and to the server (and even to /media folder), restarted the server -- but no luck. HDHomeRun didn't recognize the existence of a share called HDHomeRun. (I was hoping to bypass the FreeBSD lack of port for the product issue with HDHomeRun) Is part of the dialogue about using the Emby server as a backend for the HDHomeRun DVR? I would like that since it is already integrated into Kodi, but I'm still using Emby TV too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I was dissapointed in the file format at first as well. I use MCEBuddy as well with the .ts unprocessed profile. MCEBuddy doesn't have a mpg profile. However, I have been using the ts unprocessed profile with my recordings and it is working fine as far as I can tell. Roy over at the MCEBUDDY forum told me the mp4 unprocessed profile will work or I can create my own profile for mpg too. I haven't looked into that yet though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) So, mp4 unprocessed will leave it as an mpg file? It would be nice to strip commercials and still see the finished product in the DVR. I tried .ts unprocessed and the DVR could no longer see the file, which is why I guess you left the post on the silicondust forum about being left with two files. How do we create a profile for .mpg unprocessed? That would be ideal for the setup the way it is. As long as there is going to be a way to do this eventually I'm fine with it. Being able to strip commercials and return to the original folder would be a terrific addition. I would also love to have it directly on the emby server since then I only need one always on machine. Edited July 4, 2015 by PhilWhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The mp4 process will still change it to an mp4, so that issue would remain. It just keeps the video codec and audio as it is in the original recording. I am not sure yet how to create a profile as I haven't played around with it yet. There are some instructions on the mcebuddy website though. Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Working on it. Sometimes it pays to have the flu and start the recovery process Don't feel like getting out but now I have enough energy to try this. It actually looks really simple. You just go to MCEBuddy files under programs, then to config. The profile.conf files are in that area. Doesn't look like you can change the .conf file in that area, so I moved it to the desktop and opened with notepad (you might be able to do it in it's location with notepad++). I went to the mp4 unprocessed entry and made a copy, pasted it below and changed the output to .mpg. We'll see if it works. I'll keep you posted. So far I've been unimpressed with unprocessed commercial removal since I haven't seen it cut out any commercials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Sorry, so far it looks like it doesn't matter a whit. I'm going to try rebooting after the current 'conversions' are complete. At least I'm getting commercial deletion, but I've had to rename the files to place them into separate subfolders. Moving them back to the source origin doesn't seem to help, but I haven't rebooted yet. Right now the files come out with as .mpg but the DVR doesn't recognize them. I plan to play with a bit and will let you know. Might be something worth bringing to Nick at silicondust's attention, but it probably depends on what plays out. I can assure you that we are not the only ones worried about commercial deletion using MCEBuddy. I've thought about buying VideoRedo to do it myself, but I prefer the automation of MCEBuddy, even with the minor mistakes it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 OK, here's what I can tell ya. It looks like an manipulation of the original file makes it unavailable to the DVR. You can strip commercials with MCEBuddy, but it requires placing the file in a subfolder and then moving the contents back to the original place, which obviates the point of using MCEBuddy, but even then it won't show in the DVR on Kodi. But the good new is that I just saw there is a FreeBSD version now available, so who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmcroy 315 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks. I will be able to play with it some tomorrow. Sent from my SM-G386T1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilWhite 64 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Jason, The FreeBSD version for HDHR works as far as I can tell. I haven't recorded anything yet, so I'm not entirely sure that I have the config file record path set correctly, but I'll see later today when I record a few shows. Assuming you have a FreeNAS sever (thought you mentioned that somewhere), otherwise nevermind. If you follow the instructions under Engineering Notes for NAS setup - manual install it is fairly easy. I created a new jail, named it and created a CIFS share to the new jail. Then SSH in to be sure of the pathway, and while there set permissions on the jail to read and write for others so that I could do the other steps. Then create an hdhomerun.conf file with Notepad (change the regular .txt to 'all files' and save as hdhomerun.conf to the new share). Download the FreeBSD version (in downloads since yesterday) and move it to the new share. Then ssh back in, open a terminal, go to the jail and start the record service (I renamed the record service hdhomerun_record as in the Engineering notes -- simple matter of cutting off the end of the filename). The service started and is running. I changed the DVR tab of HDHR Setup to 'other computer', hit apply -- and when I started HDHR in Kodi I was able to get to the guide/recordings (now with no recordings since the engine is running in a new place). So it clearly recognized the new instance of the engine and it is clearly not the instance on my Windows machine. I'll let you know if I run into any more issues. I haven't returned to the MCEBuddy thing yet. I was a bit discouraged by the disappearance of the files from the DVR when they return with the same file extension, but maybe I need to change something in the profiles.conf file in MCEBuddy. Edited July 5, 2015 by PhilWhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 How far out are we from a Silicon Dust DVR plugin or waiting until it's officially released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellomade 140 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 How far out are we from a Silicon Dust DVR plugin or waiting until it's officially released? Why would you need it? EmbyTV does even more than SD's product does at this point. Did you try it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke 37051 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Why would you need it? EmbyTV does even more than SD's product does at this point. Did you try it? Because of his (and others) perception. That's something we will have to overcome through more positive statements such as yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Why would you need it? EmbyTV does even more than SD's product does at this point. Did you try it? Yes, and I love it. I currently use it for all mobile viewing, previously I used ServerWMC. The only two features that are missing that would make it perfect is DRM content and direct playing to supported devices (particularly Shield TV). Direct play is probably something that can be resolved but isn't DRM not as easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Because of his (and others) perception. That's something we will have to overcome through more positive statements such as yours. Emby TV is an outstanding addition to Emby. The recording engine seems solid and the interface is beautiful (currently better than SiliconDust but a bit slow on the FireTV). And like I mentioned to mellomade, I use it for my mobile viewing. However, a lot of my content is DRM protected which is needed if I plan to also use it in the living room (and 5 other TV's in the house). Is DRM content something that you think will ever be supported? I could be wrong, but I always thought you said it couldn't (or wouldn't) be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellomade 140 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) However, a lot of my content is DRM protected which is needed if I plan to also use it in the living room (and 5 other TV's in the house). Is DRM content something that you think will ever be supported? I could be wrong, but I always thought you said it couldn't (or wouldn't) be done. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that DRM content will 'likely' never happen directly from any Emby apps. Emby apps would need to pass CableLabs' gauntlet of an approval process and cost big $$$$. For an open source project that people develop for free there would never be enough financial resources to do it. The one way I could see this happening is possibly using HDHomeRun VIEW app as an external player on certain boxes - likely Windows or Android. Edited August 25, 2015 by mellomade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that DRM content will 'likely' never happen directly from any Emby apps. Emby apps would need to pass CableLabs' gauntlet of an approval process and cost big $$$$. For an open source project that people develop for free there would never be enough financial resources to do it. The one way I could see this happening is possibly using HDHomeRun VIEW app as an external player on certain boxes - likely Windows or Android. That was my understanding of it as well which is my main motivation of looking into SD solution. Have android box at each TV with SD app for whole home dvr but have all the external and mobile clients connect through Emby (using SD backend). I am also hoping that SD makes their app handle android intents where we can use it as external player for DRM content. So I guess SD DVR plugin for Emby is a ways out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellomade 140 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 So I guess SD DVR plugin for Emby is a ways out Yeah - even if a plugin were to be created - it certainly wouldn't handle the DRM stuff. Launching an external player would just allow you to play back your DRM recordings via a protected path on the device that supports the external player. If Emby has to transcode or really do anything to handle the DRM file (for your mobile or external clients) it will likely break that protected path. Who knows though - I guess we'll have to wait and see what SD's ecosystem looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianW 1052 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I was just looking at their kickstarter campaign - and I thought that for the $199 I could get the the tuner for cheaper than the regular store price. But then I realised that $199 would be in US dollars, and the Aussie dollar exchange rate is just atrocious at the moment, making the thing quite a bit more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blauter78 4 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Yeah - even if a plugin were to be created - it certainly wouldn't handle the DRM stuff. Launching an external player would just allow you to play back your DRM recordings via a protected path on the device that supports the external player. If Emby has to transcode or really do anything to handle the DRM file (for your mobile or external clients) it will likely break that protected path. Who knows though - I guess we'll have to wait and see what SD's ecosystem looks like. Agreed. I would use probably use it the same way I used ServerWMC, to watch unprotected content on mobile (rarely) and for scheduling recordings (very frequently). Edited August 31, 2015 by blauter78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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